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Clinton's Desperation Over Syria.Perhaps Good News.

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Hillary Clinton,"let's make it clear that Russia and China will pay a price because they are holding up progress."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31794 Tony Cartalucci does an excellent summary of the dilemma the Western Oligarchs have created for themselves.In the face of a collapsing finance system with no productivity to back it,the West thought they would be free to expand their empire unchallenged.China and Russia soon put paid to this notion with their stance on Syria.

http://lexicon.ft.com/Term?term=Glass_Steagall-Act Another development is the proposed re-introduction of Glass Steagall Act to secure the real productive economy and stop the plundering of our finances.

Tony Cartalucci," The West should be positioning itself for the changing world-instead is clinging to a crumbling empire."

We are far from achieving peace but a back down over Syria and financial reform via a Glass Steagall Act may see some positive outcomes finally germinate.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 8 July 2012 1:38:16 PM
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Good onya Mrs Clinton!
On the right track here girl!
Go you good thing!
Posted by Belly, Monday, 9 July 2012 5:27:07 AM
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Arjay,

Am I right in interpreting that you support Russia and China's opposition to the west intervening to prevent the massacre of Syrian's civilians by its government?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 9 July 2012 5:48:00 AM
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Read the article Shadow Minister.The USA has it's forces in Syria doing the massacres.They want to destablise Syria and then attack Iran and Lebanon.This is part of their New World Order.The Imperialists are on our side.ie Banking Military Industrial Complex.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 9 July 2012 8:42:22 AM
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Do we all see this?
Our resident conspiracy theorist is known anti west anti America.
But it seems to me, blaming deaths committed in the middle east by foul dictators or just other followers of any religion is stretching it.
Hopefully a day will come when an education for living will rep;lace religious ones for hating.
Mean while I find no grounds to blame other than the murderer of his own people here.
This is based on one creed against another but the same God?
Posted by Belly, Monday, 9 July 2012 1:54:44 PM
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Belly,I'm not anti-American.The New World Order that your CO2 taxes will pay for is responsible for all these un-necessary wars.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 9 July 2012 5:40:15 PM
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What people like Shadow Minister don't realise is that the lunatic Western Oligarchs are seriously considering a nuke war with China and Russia.

The prime reason is that of the growing awareness in the West of how the financial system has been rigged to steal from pension funds and "Quantative Easing" scams to milk the tax payer even more.The Oligarchs fear us more than Russia or China because they may have to face justice for the first time in 200 yrs.

All sides in this global nuclear stand off now have strategic nukes.(mini-nukes).The Western Oligarchs think they have the edge and can have a limited nuke war making Russia/China back down and sue for peace under their terms.This is the reality we all now confront.The lunatics are on our side.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 9 July 2012 8:19:46 PM
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Belly>> Do we all see this?
Our resident conspiracy theorist is known anti west anti America.
But it seems to me, blaming deaths committed in the middle east by foul dictators or just other followers of any religion is stretching it.<<

Belly have you seen the way that the 911 towers fell. Never before in history had a skyscraper collapsed like that, let alone two. One burnt furiously in Brazil for 24 hours, it didn't fall. Not to mention building six of the WTC, it fell and it was not even hit. Great fall, like the two towers right into its own footprint.

Why I tell you the obvious Belly is that the same mob who did this are doing exactly what Arjay mentioned in Syria. It is called manipulation Belly and the Soviets and Americans had forty years to get the "black op's" formula right. The term Puppet Governments grew out of this era. Of course destabilization of the Middle East is ongoing and in the format that Arjay has laid out in Syria. The Americans are not the good guys sport, notice how they are always in someone else’s country helping them out militarily, like the Ruskies did until they went broke. Sadly the Ruskies did not have the European banking cartels funding them on the slate, so a two ring circus becomes one.
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 5:45:13 PM
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Sonofgloin,I'm not phased by any detractors since like you,I know the truth.The evidence for 911 being another false flag event is over whelming,but to many, it is now ancient history.

The truth movement has foiled a lot of their plans by revealing many minor false flag events.They were supposed to be in Iran years ago but now are struggling just to take Syria.Even Keating and Malcom Fraser have come out recently criticising the USA over their aggression towards China.

Keep your eye on the London Olympics the security is poor and there ar reports of plans to evacuate London
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 8:17:02 PM
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How would you "evacuate London"?....I'm a tad hesitant to ask "why" you'd evacuate London, because I'm sure you'll give a Balrick's Pants (Pandora's Box) answer.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 8:24:52 PM
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"…the security is poor and there ar reports of plans to evacuate London."

Hang on. Is that revelation proof that "The truth movement has foiled a lot of their plans…"

'Struth.
Posted by WmTrevor, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 8:54:38 PM
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I'm just reporting what whistle blowers have revealed.The intention of the truth movement is to reveal all possibilities and stop the insanity.The Gulf of Tonkin attack which initiated the Vietnam war,never happened.We warned the USA that the Japs were about to attack Pearl Harbour but they needed it because the US people did not want war.WW2 was just another money making scam for banksters who financed both sides of the conflict.

A Muslim terrorist would logically have an attack in the opening ceremony for maxium disruption.A corporate criminal terrorist would likely choose the closing ceremony to maximise profits and bring in a New World Order.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 10:04:50 PM
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But Arjay,

Any attack that necessitated the "evacuation of London" would have to be on a diabolically large scale....and where would everyone be shepherded to?

Surely not Bognor Regis?
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:27:15 AM
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Tanzania Daily News >> Against the backdrop of the sweeping global financial crisis, China has made some 875 million dollars investment in Africa during the first nine months of this year, a 77.5 per cent increase year on year. Much of the investment was focused or infrastructure projects and other programmes that benefit the local people.<<
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9u8Qr_IUSc

Arjay, not a lot to add to your comments on the administration vs Syria, but Clinton’s threat to China and Russia sparks an observation. We have seen how Russia and America conduct their affairs in lesser nations which get no respect or kudos from me, but China has always engendered a respect from me. I consider that when Russia and the US had the place divided up they would fight each other in lesser nations by factional support, the Americans supported the ones the bankers could get along with and Russia was left to support the other. Yet in comparison during that 40 year period a nuclear capable China minded its own business most of the time. In fact during that period they fought in only two wars, both in countries that they shared a border with.

China is building mega cities from scratch in Africa. Last year China Africa trade was over one hundred billion. China even surpassed American manufacturing last year, they are the new America, which prompts a question, what sort of imperialists will they be? It is about growth and exploitation but China may be a benevolent dictator unlike the Yanks and the Ruskies . I think it is going to be China vs the Bankers at some stage Arjay, can’t even think how that will go, that depends on how astute the American people are, and the track record is not good.
Posted by sonofgloin, Thursday, 12 July 2012 6:43:29 PM
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Yes sonofgloin.China is the new Global Power but absolute power corrupts.They will end up just as bad as our Western Oligarchs.

Obama is now taking control of everything with presidential signing orders.He is just like Hitler with the exception of the brutality at home.The only thing stopping him at the moment is the 200 million guns in civilian hands.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 12 July 2012 8:12:18 PM
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