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Will Labor ditch Gillard and the carbon tax?
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Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 9 July 2012 3:46:12 PM
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I have no intention of joining this game.
And do not remember your predictions in all truth. This may be because much of what you say is extremely avoidable. I stand firmly behind my predictions. You however do have me baffled. Are you Julie Bishop?Pyne? Bronwyn Bishop? Any of the three old girls? Pyne is the most feminine Posted by Belly, Monday, 9 July 2012 5:53:38 PM
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Belly,
"I have no intention of joining this game." You started it. "And do not remember your predictions in all truth." very convenient considering we have been through this before. If and when I do make predictions it is because I have read up on the issues, and am confident in the figures. Not because I would like it to be so. And no, I have never been a member of any party. From what I see Abbott is playing the game as if it were chess, Juliar like it was tiddly winks. Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 9 July 2012 6:54:35 PM
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What a giggle I got from "From what I see Abbott is playing the game as if it were chess, Juliar like it was tiddly winks."
I can't let such an asinine comment go by. All MM has done is stay on mantra in his propaganda and scare-mongering campaign while Gillard has got things done under probably the most trying circumstances ever faced by a PM in Australian political history. The thing one must concede to MM is the tenacity of his attempt to gain power through the refugee affair, which looks like it may well work. In chess, your move is not made until you let go of your piece, and MM is certainly not letting go of that one. Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 9 July 2012 7:53:34 PM
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SM I doubt Abbott can play chess.
He would take hours to find the next move change his mind too often and be? himself. Muppet man is as likely to become prime minister as I am. No chance. While you say you are reading can you get a bit more in to just what you read"? Little Golden books will not do it Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 4:58:26 AM
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Belly,
Whatever game is being played, Juliar is losing and losing badly. Abbott has held a blowtorch to Labor policies and values and not let the focus drift to the coalition. Labor is in La la land if they think that the polls are going to change significantly over the next year. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/life-under-new-levy-fails-to-land-a-blow-on-tony-abbotts-ratings/story-fn59niix-1226422081642 Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 5:35:52 AM
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I generally avoid making predictions, but the ones I have made have come true. In chronological order:
1 Carbon price and Copenhagen. I had doubts that Copenhagen would yield any significant outcomes especially with the GFC. I predicted that a failure here would lead to a large popular swing against carbon pricing. Australians are more than happy to do their fair share, but not to go it alone.
2 Rudd's repeal of the PS (Pacific solution). I predicted a huge upswing in arrivals to pre PS levels. And that with 80% of the voters in favour of tough border protections that this would seriously dent Rudd's stellar popularity figures. I can clearly remember the looney left telling me that driving the boats was a push factor and a small increase was expected.
3 In the stale mate just after the election I predicted that RO and TW would throw their hands in with the coalition as their conservative electorates would punish them heavily if they did not produce huge justification for their betrayal. I was wrong on the first count but the polls show that unless things change RO and TW will be looking for new jobs by 2014.
4 When it was apparent that there was going to be a Labor lead hung parliament, the sentiment here was that it was going to be a co operative parliament. However, past hung parliaments that were co operative have lead to the governing party getting a majority in the next election, and fractious ones have lead to the governing party losing heavily. I predicted that TA would make governing extremely difficult and expose every weakness of Labor.
5 When only after weeks of making her no carbon tax promise, Juliar reneged, I predicted that she would be reminded of this week in and week out, and that the voters would not forgive or forget.
So far 5 out of 6 correct, while Belly is out for a duck.