I liked how Juliar yesterday kept saying now we have the tax but the world has not ended (word like that) The price increases will come over time not all on the first day.

The truth may start soon quote "indefinite postponement of New Zealand's Emissions Trading Scheme" apparently it was 3.5 times less costly than ours, now someone needs to tell Julia.

Don't be silly Philip, Julia is totally deaf as well as blind & dumb. No one could tell her anything, she just wouldn't hear.

She's too blind to read anything, & if one taught her Braille, she is too dumb to understand anything.

I have no doubt Labor will dump Gillard
This link seems to say soon
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/labor-mp-joel-fitzgibbon-questions-green-alliance/story-fncyva0b-1226416297059
It is the second time this bloke, one I am on record as disliking, has spoken out.
I fronted him once at NSW Labor conference, he had made an anti union statement.
He had put his hand in Lathams, Creans, then Gillards.
I still see all three as a troika, not to be forgiven.
But am impressed, we all make mistakes,with the apparent rebirth of this bloke.
Close observers can see the warnings, feedback is hostile, Julie can never get clean air, she is dead in the water, history, a fair way in the future may not be that bad, but blind hate stalls her now.
ALP will have a new leader this year.
Check too the people standing with and behind Abbott,Pyne looked stricken by fear Morrison too.
Both leaders at least think, their future is wrapped in carbon tax.
Inn truth deeper reasons, concerns about how very bad our Parliament has become, drive change.
TWO new leaders by Christmas .

Here are a few snippets from Paul Kelly the political analyst:

"Carbon pricing in Australia looms as a object lesson in reform mismanagement. Pivotal to Labor's problem is the global failure to progress a legally binding international agreement on carbon pricing symbolised by the Copenhagen debacle in late 2009. This was the turning point; Labor has never recovered.

From that moment the debate changed - domestic support for carbon pricing went into a slump and new fears arose in Australian business, reinforced by subsequent economic troubles in Europe and America, that carbon pricing threatened our competitiveness. The key lobbies - the Business Council of Australia and the Australian Industry Group - turned critical."

The jist of this is that after the collapse of the Copenhagen talks, and the economic crisis the public mood swung against carbon pricing. Gillard's broken promise and attempt to foist the tax invoked a visceral anger in many voters against which the merits or otherwise became irrelevant. The arguments and stunts of those such as Emmerson to show that the tax "isn't so bad" is doomed to failure.

Thanks for that Shadow Minister, no fair dinkum I see it far differently.
Gillards words, the fact she never even tried to explain herself are an obstacle.
Never take it for granted voters know what you are thinking, and do not that they do not know it at times.
She is the reason, not Tony's lies, that it needs help.
A new leader gives a new start,next summer massive fires and heat? slowly the new leader will turn it around.
We can not forget the world meets again at Christmas and that large numbers already support action and pay for it.
ten years hence looking back many more will be paying.
Hating Gillard/Labor is not enough reason to forget.
YOUR team has the same percentage cuts as target, BUT WANTS BATTLERS TO PAY.