Belly,
Now you are talking.

If Labor believe the Malaysia scheme will work, they should presure the Greens into accepting it. If that happens i would be quite willing to see how it goes. That is if the boats stop, even though I am not real happy in accepting the 4000 refugees from Malaya.

If not, then the government should try the Nauru and TPVs thing. As I have said before, the illegals are so convinced that we are stupid and soft, it may now take even tougher measures to stop the boats from coming.

I see there is to be an illegals advocates demo in Sydney. They reckon we should have done more to rescue the illegals and now they want us to provide escorts for the boats from Indonesia to Christmas Island. Next they will want a twice weekly air service free and direct.

Oto, I don't think push has anything to do with more than just a few boat arrivals. Even then I think if properly investigated, we would find that most of those pushed were actually wanted criminals, or even terrorists in their home country.

No mate, it is the pull factor of cheap/free housing, a huge resettlement grant, & a comfortable life on welfare. They & their bleeding heart advisers know how to get every penny out of our convoluted welfare system, & they live better than many supplying that welfare.

So mate, our current is guilty on both counts. Inviting them in, & encouraging them to go for a boat ride.

Australia and its government is not responsible alone in this matter. The whole world is responsible for allowing such a state of affairs in the world to persist. Refugees are the result of war, mass violence and prejudice. Lets abolish war, mass violence and prejudice. All it takes is a change in consciousness on the part of every human being on the planet. You might say impossible. I say it is easy, each person bears the personal responsibility and the receives the joy of recognising the oneness of humanity, a spiritual principle that is staring us all in the face in this modern interdependent world. One God (however called), one small fragile planet, one people.

A fine thought for the day, GR. Until that great day comes, or until the next election, whichever comes first, may the the Greens gridlock our border control and immigration systems.

Juliar is a big girl.

She has 2 choices, go with the greens onshore processing plan or with the coalition's proven off shore processing plan. So far the Juliar has stuck with the green's plan which has killed more than 500 people. She can start saving lives tomorrow with the Coalition's compromise plan.

Fine Lucerferase, but have you taken personal responsibility for the required decision I have referred to and absorbed it into your consciousness and motivation, or do you think this matter can best be solved by politics and political games. In my view divisive politics will never solve this problem, it is just fiddling while Rome burns, so to speak.