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Another refugee boat disaster. Is Australia responsible?
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Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 1:15:10 PM
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"the boat will be sunk if they again enter our territorial waters, with these invaders on board. Then carry out this action to prove it is not an idle threat"
Hasbeen, The following quote fits in with your thinking; The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we don't ask for their love; only for their fear. Heinrich Himmler Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 6:20:54 PM
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I concur with the sentiments expressed in this article:
http://newsweekly.com.au/article.php?id=5222 "It has been a sorry tale of incompetence, stubbornness and denial by the Gillard Government — incompetence in its inability to drive an effective policy solution, stubbornness in refusing to adopt anything Tony Abbott suggests simply because it is Tony Abbott who suggests it, and denial in its inability to see the extent of the problem and its genuine impact in the electorate. The Sydney Morning Herald’s Paul Sheehan summed the situation up brilliantly in a column on June 11. He wrote: “The numbers are extraordinary. The failure is breathtaking — a failure in every possible way, of policy, morality, practicality, security, sovereignty, fairness and budgeting.” Or, as The Australian’s editor-at-large Paul Kelly put it so succinctly: “Australia’s humiliation at the hands of people-smugglers is now complete: our borders are easily penetrated, our refugee program is critically compromised and elusive smuggler Captain Emad has made Australia a double fool, arriving illegally and departing untouched. “Last week seven boats arrived. Last month 1,100 boatpeople arrived. Forty-five boats have arrived since Labor’s Malaysian policy was deadlocked in the parliament. The pattern is irregular but the trend is relentless — more boats are coming because people-smugglers know our borders are relatively open and they are feeding asylum-seeker demand.” Around 18,000 people have now arrived in 314 boats under the current Labor administration, and it is estimated around 90 per cent wind their way through the system and get to stay in Australia. The people-smugglers are right. If you pay up and get to Australia by whatever means, there is a fair chance you will be successful in short-circuiting the long, difficult and uncertain process of official immigration applications. Incredibly, a federal Labor Government has run up the white flag on illegal immigration." Posted by drab, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 11:16:53 PM
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As Geoffrey Blainey once wrote, many open borders zealots tend to view Australia as merely "a piece of good luck to be shared with the rest of the world."
Their argument goes something like this: as contemporary native-born (white) Australians obviously did nothing to deserve their good fortune of having been born in such an affluent country, what gives them the right to exclude outsiders (who equally did nothing to deserve having been born into poverty)? The obvious response to this asinine argument is that wealth is not distributed by some higher power that irrationally practices favoritism toward fair-skinned nations. Rather, wealth is produced, and most existing wealth is found in countries where most has been produced over the past several generations. One of the main motives was the producers’ expectation that they would be able to pass it on to their descendents, rather than see it confiscated for the benefit of rent-seeking foreigners. In short, the "let them all in" brigade are delusional and clearly do not care about Australia's national interests nor the interests of the existing Australian population. They are dangerous and even, dare I say, treasonous individuals. Posted by drab, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 11:44:26 PM
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Hi Drab,
<<Their argument goes something like this: as contemporary native-born (white) Australians obviously did nothing to deserve their good fortune of having been born in such an affluent country, what gives them the right to exclude outsiders (who equally did nothing to deserve having been born into poverty)?>> Well said. An apt description of the motive(s) of most of the strongest “asylum seekers” advocates on this forum (and elsewhere). If you look at their posting history you will see that idea encoded in their posts time and time again. Hope we will be hearing a lot more from you on this forum. Cheers Posted by SPQR, Thursday, 28 June 2012 6:04:15 AM
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This boat people thing is getting out of hands. We have morons suggesting we should just open the doors. Isn't there any way these idiots could be charged with stupidity ?
How about this idea. When a boat with so-called asylum seekers is heading for Australia wait till they scuttle it then drop inflatable life rafts with sails & plenty of provisions for them to clamber on to. Once they put up the sail the prevailing winds will take them right back. Problem nipped in the butt. It'd be a lot cheaper & more effective plus we could start a lucrative industry of making inflatable sailing life rafts. Everyone gets something out of it instead of everyone sacrificing something. Posted by individual, Thursday, 28 June 2012 3:19:59 PM
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Then carry out this action to prove it is not an idle threat, if required.
Bet they would stop damn quick, with less loss of life, than the current Labor practice is causing.