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When is it OK to kill?

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Corbet: That's actually a falsehood people on your side of the argument rely on to justify your position

Crap! Peter. Do you live in La La Land or are you smokin' somethin' ya not supposed to.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 23 June 2012 8:40:17 AM
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David Corbett,
Does the creation of refugees not come under when is it ok to kill ?
Does the agenda of sending people on a silent invasion on a leaky craft on the last leg of the operation not come under when is it ok to kill ?
Australia has an obligation to not turn away refugees. It has an obligation to save people in peril. It does not have an obligation streamline the invasion of itself.
There are countless uninhabited islands or remote islands long before they get to the boats to bring them here. What prevents them from setting up camp along the route ? I tell what prevents them, smarter people than here.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 23 June 2012 10:06:53 AM
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David,

Then it is a falsehood perpetrated by the government and newspapers from the left and right.

It is not only planes but also cashed up customer of the smugglers are leaving on boats organised directly from the countries concerned, with a stop over in Indonesia.

There are many refugees in need, most of those on the boats are not.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 23 June 2012 11:29:19 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

If most of the boat people are not refugees as you
now stated in your previous post - then how come under
the Pacific Solution which your party keeps claiming
worked so well - were most of the refugees eventually
accepted as genuine refugees into this country under the
Howard government? You can't have it both ways.

Also, don't you think that people are more than happy
to take the risk of travelling by sea - if they know
that eventually they will end up in Australia? That
certainly isn't any sort of a deterrant. Whereas
if they end up back where they started from - as in the
Malaysia Solution - that just might work as a deterrant
not to spend their money needlessly - if they're going
to end up back from whence they came.

In any case it is time that both parties got together
and genuinely tried to reach a satisfactory outcome.
The attitude of "My way, or the highway," attitude
has got to go. As has "It worked then it will work now."
This should be about genuine deterrants - and human life,
not politics. It's not all that hard to understand.
Posted by Lexi, Monday, 25 June 2012 11:28:55 AM
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Lexi,

Less than half the asylum seekers that were sent to Nauru were settled in Australia.

Those cashed up "refugees" need enough money to get on a boat to feed and clothe the refugee for a decade. Most of those in the refugee camps don't have a fraction of the cash. These migrants are jumping the queue and stealing places from those far more deserving.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 25 June 2012 1:52:10 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Actually the number that The Sydney Morning Herald
newspaper gives is - 96 percent of the refugees under
Mr Howard's Pacific Solution ended up in Australia.

And the refugee problem won't will continue because
neither political party is willing to sit down and
discuss solutions. Finger-pointing seems to be
more important.
Posted by Lexi, Monday, 25 June 2012 4:22:48 PM
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