Recently I have spent time in Brisbane and Adelaide, being from Sydney it was great to escape. A colleague made me aware of the washed out wispy cloud formations above our heads in Brisbane and told me about chemtrails. The formations were white wispy and unthreatening but they certainly were not natural. When I arrived back in Sydney I u tubed the subject and found it was something tangible and something to be concerned about. They were over Sydney several times over the following weeks.
They, whoever they are continue to spray the first world with this stuff and only a miniscule percentage of the population is aware of it. A few weeks later I saw the same wispy chemtrails covering Adelaide and on further u tubing I discovered that they are spraying all Australia’s population centers. A phone call to my local member got a “I don’t know anything about it response” and a quick dismissal. Can any here enlighten me on what the hell is going on, albeit covertly it seems.

No need to panic. There is no spraying going on. What you are seeing is contrails caused by water vapour coming from the engines of the aeroplane acting as cloud nuclei. See here for more http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/contrail.html

Contrails can be quite spectacular and at times form a significantly large part of the cloud cover:

http://www.google.com/search?q=contrail&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=ctbZT5eBHsmfiQfmz5n_Ag&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CFMQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=599

I have not seen evidence of chemtrails in Aust.The USA is a different matter.Vapour trails behind planes quickly disperse.Chemtrails stay in the sky for hours.They are spraying chemicals in the USA ie Aluminium etc but no one knows the real intent.Is it experimental work with weather or something used in conjunction with HAARP? People in the USA have seen this spraying often and they are not vapour trails.

Contrails can stay in the sky for hours. They can remain fairly discrete or can just continue to get broader and broader and more contorted and mixed with other clouds, It all depends on atmospheric moisture and general weather conditions.

A very amusing thought, you can if you look see some true screw ball stuff on this subject.
Conspiracy nuts just love it.
Goggle and enjoy.
Any true film of the dog fights over England in the Battle of Britain will show them pre jets.
It will always interest me, how much conspiracy's take the spotlight away from true conspiracy's.
If Joseph Gobbles was alive I am sure he would be pleased how much his use of propaganda to conceal truth has grown.
However I am forced to admit those Indian miner birds do leave a type of contrail.

Noting to worry about sonofgloin, I've been in touch with General Chuck Brassbottom at the Pentagon and he assures me its nothing more than the US air force disposing of some excess stockpiles of spent plutonium. I did ask why over Australian cities and not American? He response was "Um...Don't YOU know its an election year! I said okay, I then asked if it was "safe" to be spraying plutonium on the citizenry. General Brassbottom said "Of COURSE it is.....and don't you go believing that commie nonsense about plutonium being bad for you, its as safe as, well its safe take my word for it." General Brassbottoms parting words to me were, "Listen here Skippy, if ya don't like it, just remember we've got ah bigger army than YOU." I said "Okay General thanks for the reassurance." he hung up.

Well done Paul1405. I was tempted to do something similar myself until I saw your post. Pipped at the Post, as they say. :-)

Agromonist: by water vapour coming from the engines of the aeroplane.

No, it water vapour caused by the compression of the air around the trailing edges of the wing tips. It's called cavitation. Same effect is caused on a boats propeller when it over revs in water. The tips of the prop drive the air out of the water & make bubbles, then the boat slips in air & slows down. It's dangerous to swim at the base of a waterfall because the air bubbles caused by the falling water in the still water causes a loss of buoyancy & you sink. Basic school days Physics. It why they put the curvy bit on the end of the wings of aircraft nowadays to reduce drag & save fuel.

Don't get caught up in conspiracy theories mate, it’ll do your head in.

I'd think that those who'd contemplate spraying us with something would be smart enough to think they themselves would be sprayed also.

A lot of relevance in what you guys say, but I am not convinced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL_nkKFXCGE&feature=related

sonogloin,

Whadayareckon they might be spraying then?

And whadayareckon they might be able to achieve by spraying us with it?

I can't wait for the big greenie monsters to show their heads.

OOOOhh It's causing AGW, We''' all be killed. We're gonna die, poisoned by the chemtrail.

Read my post again carefully.

Come on Arjay, etc, etc. Take the bait. Doo do Doo do.

Sonofgloin, your youtube implies that contrails disappear very quickly and that anything that doesn’t disappear quickly is a chemtrail.

Well, that would have to mean that those surreptitious sprayers of unknown chemicals would have been at it for a long time.

I can remember long-lasting contrails going right back to my childhood in the 60s.

Contrails can last for a long time and grow and as said in the vid; can sometimes lead to the whole sky becoming overcast. Always have done....and without chemicals!

Why is this thread under Technical Support and not General Discussion??

Lugwig,

"Why is this thread under Technical Support and not General Discussion??"

I'm beginning to think we should have a special section for "Conspiracy Theories" : )

Heeee hehehehee!

Apologies for that - Lugwig should of course be "Ludwig". (noticed it just as I clicked to post)

No worries Poroit. ( :>)

Sonofgloin,It is not just in the realm of theory.They are spraying barium oxide and aluminium into the atmosphere.Geo-engineers admit to experimenting with it to stop so called Global warming.It does however have serious health implications.

'What in the World are they Spraying?' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te_FOsKL_5Q G Edward Griffin as put out a documentary on this subject.This is the trailer.

Luddy, don't be so pedantic.

Poirot the earth is flat…that is what the overwhelming majority of the earth’s population thought for most of our existence. I could deliver video from all over the globe showing chemtrails, but to what end. Most people believe the governments the military and the few who run the agenda of the world’s economy at some level serve the best interests of us, but they do not.

Consider the Bilderberg group and the Club of Rome, elitist swine who direct mandates for the globe, using the U.N. and their absolute control of the social and economic direction of all nations regardless of the political colour of that nation or states government. They have been stridently talking about the sustainability of the earth’s resources for four decades now. These swine discuss the worth of humans in economic and environmental terms with a view to managing the draw on resources that a growing population places on it.

Only a few years ago Brezinski said this to a meeting of some of those who control our destiny at the RIIA:

“Major powers face another new reality, in some respects unprecedented, and that is that the lethality of their power is greater than ever, but their ability to maintain control over the politically awakened masses of the world is at a historical low. I once put it rather pungently and I was flattered that the British foreign minister repeated this. In earlier times it was easier to control a million people than kill them, now it is easier to kill them.”

TBC

This guy is not spruiking his observations down the pub, he moves with the .000000000000001% that control everything. An old and wise Jewish lady physicist said this to me when I aired the issue with her not to long ago:

“They have been spraying urban populations from the late 1940’s for various short term researches, but the escalation over the past decade is frightening because once the pilots are used to spraying slow acting materials their next flight could carry lethal compounds or organisms and a simultaneous spraying of major population centers for their own ends is on the horizon.”

So does any of this concrete the argument that chemtrails are tangible? We each make our own decisions. But to deny that a chemtrails type operation can be used to depopulate a vast urban area without destroying infrastructure, the stuff that matters to these swine is tangible; they talk about it for Christ’s sake.

Arjay it is not often that I am further afield than your views on the world, but trust me, chemtrails are ominous and ongoing....first world wide.

Add to this the reality of Fukushima still spewing out radiation and we may soon have a planet with no people.

I was just reading an update on Fukushima and reactors 1,2,3 look like being in total meltdown.At Chernobyl the USSR put 800,000 workers on a containment building ie a huge concrete tomb around it.Japan just poured water on it and it rolled back into the ocean.They say it is like a slow release nuclear war which will poison the planet for centuries to come.Humans are really stupid beings.

I think we are witnessing the end of civilisation as we know it and it won't be caused by so called climate change.The Banking Military Industrial Complex are just totally absorbed with expanding their own power base and all that matters is winning.

Einstein had serious forbodings about the discovery of nuclear energy and was well and truely justified. http://www.globalresearch.ca/

Dear SOG,

I've always believed that Chemtrails were trails
left behind by jet aircraft - nothing more.
I don't buy into the conspiracy theories that
they are the result of systematic, high-altitude
dumping of harmful chemicals - if you've got
any evidence from reputable sources - can you refer us to it?

I'm surprised some wit didn't describe it as a chem trailer, Arjay…

You know I like to check sources so is this the same G Edward Griffin, the author of "The Creature from Jekyll Island", commentator on secret organisations and hidden agendas and who is widely described – without any apparent sense of irony – as a 'legendary conspiracy author'?

I'm surprised he had time to inform himself adequately about the topic of so-called chemtrails seeing as how he is an expert on the real Noah's Ark (DVD available) – not the one in the ice 'shown to have been based on falsified stories, myths and bogus documents'.

Such preoccupation with Griffin may have stopped you noticing, for sonofgloin's benefit, Blaylock's: "Chemtrails, Nanoaluminum and Neurodegenerative and Neurodevelopmental Effects".

Introduced thus: "from one of the most qualified people on the planet to asses the life threatening assault on all that lives which is SRM and SAG (solar radiation management and stratospheric aerosol geoengineering) This is yet more extremely alarming confirmation on the lethal nature of these programs. More confirmation that if they are not stopped, none of us will be healthy enough to fight for anything at some point. Even now, we can never know just how much damage has already been done to our health and the health of those we love. How much damage to all life on earth."

Do you know what Blaylock's evidence is?

I'll quote it, "But over the past several years I have notice a great number of these trails and I have to admit they are not like the contrails I grew up seeing in the skies. They are extensive, quite broad, are laid in a definite pattern and slowly evolve into artificial clouds. Of particular concern is that there are now so many­ dozens every day are [sic] littering the skies."

That's it for evidence!

The rest of the commentary is description of purported effects of exposure to environmental aluminium.

I can't work out how people can't join the dots of vastly increased commercial air traffic over the last 40 years and jet and vapour exhaust in the stratosphere – the rest of the atmospheric physics is fairly straightforward – though I don't pretend to be capable of working through that myself.

By the way my international commercial airline pilot nephew hasn't stopped laughing since I raised the question with him – after describing stratospheric contrails he did observe that in over 20 years he hadn't noticed all this supposed of activity on any of his aircraft radar.

WM Trevor is is worth an investigation.If you looked at the Trailer these Geo-engineers have admitted to experimenting with such chemicals in the atmosphere.They have found levels of Barium and Aluminium in the soil thousands of times what they should be.The evidence is there that something is seriously wrong.

You don't just close your eyes and hope it will all go away.

jayb1: It water vapour caused by the compression of the air around the trailing edges of the wing tips. It's called cavitation. Same effect is caused on a boats propeller when it over revs in water. The tips of the prop drive the air out of the water & make bubbles, then the boat slips in air & slows down. It's dangerous to swim at the base of a waterfall because the air bubbles caused by the falling water in the still water causes a loss of buoyancy & you sink & swimming is usless because you're swimming through air. It why they put the curvy bit on the end of the wings of aircraft nowadays to reduce drag & save fuel.

BASIC SCHOOL DAYS PHYSICS, Grades 8 to 10, nothing special.

Wake up people you are being led a merry dance by the Doomsayers of this world. They are having a merry chuckle at your expence. These people like to prey on stupid people. They pick on people who are easy targets. These same people will sell you a ticket in a raffel for the Sydney Harbour Bridge. Stupid people buy them. Like when they sold that yank London Bridge. He thought Tower Bridge was London Bridge. Mind you I have been known to start the odd furfie myself at times. I remember once at a market this woman was looking at some pumpkins. They were a bit discoloured on one side. I told her that the Supermarkets spray them with green dye them all the same colour. She believed me & brought two off the vendor. He gave me one for free & we had a good laugh.

Have they sprayed Aluminium Oxide. Yes, into clouds to make rain. (CSRIO in the 50's. It didn't work. The on & off effect you saw in the Video is caused by the plane rising through different moisture density layers as it gains altitude.

If they want to fix the Ozone Layer all they have to do is release Ozone from commercial aircraft when they fly over or close to the Poles.

I suggested this to a scientist about 10 years ago & he said that it would fix the problem but then people wouldn't stop using CFC's if they did that.

I suppose people wouldn't make money out of the scare & Governments wouldn't have anything to scare their populations with then, would they?

WmTrevor>> By the way my international commercial airline pilot nephew hasn't stopped laughing since I raised the question with him – after describing stratospheric contrails he did observe that in over 20 years he hadn't noticed all this supposed of activity on any of his aircraft radar.<<

Wm you can't argue with that, the guy is a pro and I would have thought that the pilots would have been the first to notice the unnatural cloud formations and that washed out wispy look as the trails expand, I have.

Lexi my dear, I have no proof, but there are precedents.
The poms:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience
The Germans:
http://stevenjohnhibbs.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/german-government-admits-to-spraying-population-with-chemtrails/
The yanks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiJ_R8JVpi4
Lexi too many people from all over the globe doth protest and so many of them seem to present, thanks to youtube, as just folks from all walks of life with no particular agenda to peddle. In this instance too many people are saying the emperor has no clothes

Jayb>> BASIC SCHOOL DAYS PHYSICS, Grades 8 to 10, nothing special.<<

Jaybe thanks for the re assurance, I'm comforted knowing you are capable of basic school days physics. I recall the long discussions about isostatic adjustment and all the other things in the universe that our young minds could not comprehend but all enquiries comes from observation and that is what has sparked this "conspiracy" theory. The cloud formations are weird; the contrails last for hours and they spread out rather than dissipate into nothing. If yu have not seen it it is because you ave not been looking.

BTW sonofgloin, ask your aircraft pilot by what mechanism they are releasing aluminium into the atmosphere.You just cannot put aluminium into the fuel as it will damage the engines.

The aluminium would have to be nano sized particles so as not to cause engine failure.

I believe the Greens will be hosting the 19th inaugural meeting of the flat earth society soon.

Individual raises a point, why have the greens not jumped on the chemtrail bandwagon. Perhaps for the same reason they have not jumped on fracking for gas...they are owned by the same bastards that run the resources corporations.

Phoowey to chemtrails.

There's no such thing.

Only contrails!