Bazz>>Oh I see son of SonofGloin, there are a handful of Americans still there as "advisors or something" so the Sunnis are bombing the Shiites.<<

If you think that the yanks want to stop the religious faction fighting you must be dreaming Bazz.

So, let me get this straight;
If there were zero Americans in Iraq the Sunnis would stop bombing
the Shiites, right ?

If so would then the Shiites start bombing the Sunnis ?

How did you get yourself into that tangle ?

Errr, Paul 1405,

I couldn’t help but notice this comment of yours.

<<Then some of them, about 0.001% who have the capacity to do so, have the audacity to want to make a better life for themselves and their family's by trying to reach a prosperous place, untouched by war, like Australia. Do we welcome them with open arms, No, we have a bun fight as how best to get rid of them>>

It has obviously escaped your notice but the Refugee Convention was never intended to be used as a cover/excuse for persons seeking to “reach a prosperous place”!

And it wasn’t even intended to be used as an out for person seeking to reach a place “untouched by war”!

It is pretty damning that you (and apparently the rest of the Greens) see it this way, and are prepared to turn a blind eye and rubber stamp the entry of anyone who cries poor.

SPQR

One can cover oneself with as many articles from a Merdoch fish wrapper like The Telegraph or even hide behind the words of the Convention on the Status of Refugees, and all the pursuant protocols that apply to this rather weighty legal document. All the time denying any culpability as to the plight of the peoples of the third world.
Australia has both humanitarian and legal obligations to people who arrive on our shores, an obligation to provide for them until their status has been established. The Greens is the only political party that has detailed policies that covers these obligations. The policies of both the Labor and Liberal parties is inhumane towards asylum seekers. The Greens believe asylum seekers are an Australian problem and will not support 'off shore processing' in a third world country.

Paul1405,
Australia has obligations re refugees. OK, will it show the same consideration towards it's own people when the pseudo refugees start taking over ? What will the Greens do when the crap hits the fan ? Any policies on that ?

@Paul 1405,

Oh well, it seems we have found the main reason why we can’t stop the illegals.

Apparently the Green’s believe that anyone who wants “to reach a prosperous place” can use the Refugee Convention as a pretext/excuse.

They see the Refugee Convention as JUST ANOTHER AVENUE TO IMMIGRATION..

So literally anyone who wants “to reach a prosperous place” can land on our shores and cry poor and the Greens will rubber stamp them “found to be genuine”( even it seems if they own three of four retail outlets in metropolitan Kuala Lumpur and moonlight as a people smuggling kingpin!)

So you see, PhilipS, it makes not an iota of difference whether we exorcise Cocos Island, Christmas Island and half of WA.
We are not going to stop the illegals till we remove the Greens and like minded Pollyanna's from positions of influence —and hopefully we will go a major part of the way towards doing that, at the next election!