Lexi,

I fully comprehend what has been going on.

You try and dismiss Paul Sheehan's article out of hand because he "is conservative" and refuse to address the verifiable numbers in his article that shred your illusions. Note that the SMH is not known for being right wing, and his articles facts are checked. Yet you almost exclusively post "opinion" pieces from the far left blog The New Matilda that are devoid of facts.

The reality is that the claims that "the pacific solution didn't work" are believed by almost no one, which is why Labor tried to come up with an alternative "Malaysian Solution" which was even worse than the Pacific solution.

Lexi I am a BIGOT!
I offer no defense!
A strange one how ever, I understand and remain grateful for it, the post ww 2 refugees, helped make us the great country we are today.
they, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT SHARE MY VIEWS AND bigotry!
Belly the BIGOT, also knows post gold rush migration too played its part, INCLUDING THE CHINESE.
However I refuse to compare the post Vietnam war boat people with todays refugees, BIGOTS DO THAT!
I also say, SOME of that wave of refugees, have proved to be a problem, we would be better without.
But from each wave of refugees, including this one, GREAT AUSTRALIANS come.
We, in trying to swim up a water fall, feed the Shadow Ministers, and many exist.
Liberals, in Conservative hands, will never act to end this,they feed on our inability to see what our country men and women want.
Drop border protection, see the boats become fleets over night.
Bazz I respect your great work in our hobby, you are being blind to this, those boats are not! full of Indonesians!
You propose an unfriendly action that YOU WOULD NOT EXCEPT IF THEY DID IT TO US!
Labor has the high moral ground! but under Gillard it is ten feet under the sea!
Let Abbott have his way,prove it will not work highlight its failure and try again to pass Malaysian deal.
Or cut the red tape
DUMP GILLARD!

Dear Shadow Minister,

As usual you comprehend very little.

1) I did not "dismiss" Paul Sheehan as you claim.
I merely pointed out his political leanings.

2) Historically the Sydney Morning Herald has
been a conservative newspaper. Do your research.

3) As I stated earlier - It would be difficult to
agree with every view expressed in the columns
of New Matilda but it would be equally difficult
to disagree with them all. And it would be
impossible to criticise any of them as
irrational or foolish.

Regarding your continued references to the "Pacific
Solution," here's a link that sheds another
perspective:

http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/asylum-seekers-time-for-the-australian-solution/

Dear Belly,

Did you see the PM on "Q and A," last night?
She was awesome.
Mr Abbott has been invited to appear on the program.
He's declined. I wonder why?

Belly, I just don't understand you.
>those boats are not! full of Indonesians!

Who said they were ?
It does not matter, they are Indonesian vessels, under Indonesian command.
It matters not a jot the nationality of the passengers.
That is all there is to it !

Did you hear Gillard last night ? Said the Temporary Protection Visas
had no effect !

Oh dear.
I thought she was a reasonably competent lawer and politician but I
have come to realise that she must either be stupid or just can't
think ahead and adjust what she says to reasonably fit the facts.
She seems to have a blank wall for the future.
She says NOW what suits, but does not understand the future implications.
That might explain a lot of things as I think it is unlikely she is stupid.
I have had experience of someone who acts like Julia and they just cannot see their problem.

Dear Bazz,

Have a read of the following link:

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2757748.html

You need to know the facts before spouting
misinformation.

Interesting Lexi,
Does put a different light on the TPV as a stand alone restriction.
If it did cause more women to be on boats then it did have a behavior
modification effect. So when coupled with other factors such as
Nauru etc it was then more effective.

Why would more women come if they knew they were to get TPVs ?
They could then be deported with their menfolk anyway.
Were they being told something different by the smugglers ?
I think the stats ended too soon. If there had been no other changes
the effect of TPVs would have meant most could be deported.
So I think it must be agreed that when coupled with other provisions
it is effective.
We will never know what would have happened if no other changes had
been introduced.

The arrival from Indonesia without documents must mean that the
person is trying to hide their identity. If that is so they should be
returned to Indonesia.
I suspect that their passports are sold into the false passport
industry. Some countries passports have weak security and would be
worth quite a lot of money.