It is very common for the many skilled workers, applying for mining jobs, to be told, sorry, but you don't have enough experience.

So, given the poor work place practices from the likes of China, how can the imported workers have the required experience, considering the majority moslikely domt even speak fluent English.

This importation of workers should be exposed for the scam it is.

"....considering the majority moslikely domt even speak fluent English..."

Heh, heh, rehctub - a tad ironic don't you think? : )

Can you explain. What skills are miners looking for. Chinese are big on underground mining, how mechanistic they are i don,t know.
Iron ore is taken off the surface, we will be left with the more expensive stuff.
Iron ore trains will be driver-less, as soon as they get the right trains.

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how can the imported workers have the required experience, considering the majority moslikely domt even speak fluent English.
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What does speaking fluent english have to do with anything?

My father arrived in this country in 1960, couldn't speak a word of english. Got a job straight away working as a diesel mechanic for a bus company in Melbourne . 2 years later I came along, and a few years after that we moved to W.A so he could work on the big gas pipelines they were building over there. I pretty much spent the first 12 years of my life living in a caravan travelling with the crew as they moved along the desert floor laying the pipe. 80% of them including some of the management couldn't speak a word of english. Somehow however; without the ability to speak the language, they managed to put a massive. huge pipe in the ground which delivers gas to Perth and Fremantle. Miracle I know but they did it.

Best years of my life. Things were different back then and as a kid living in the bush and going to school with the locals (mostly Aboriginal kids) I wouldn't have missed it for the world.

The reason most of the crew were migrants was because the Aussies didn't want to move from their homes. The migrants had no ties to their homes as they had already made the decision to move from their homelands. I would imagine the same applies.

So, rehctub. The need to speak fluent english is a bit of an ignorant statement to make don'tcha think?

I can see in the future Australian workers moving to China for work.Complaints from Chinese employers."These Aussies have poor Mandarin skills."

WTF? The Aussies thought that they were going to be citrus fruit pickers but applied for jobs as translators because they were illiterate.Picking the right Mandarin makes all the difference.

What does speaking fluent english have to do with anything?

Raw mustard, the entire mining industry is very big on safety.

Now how can a person, who does not speak English understand what the latest induction is all about.

Given they have inductions, sometimes as many as four times a day, what do you suggest, interpreters!

I heard today there are 299,000 Queenslanders with applications for full time work.

Yet we have to employ outsiders.

There is something in what you are saying Rehctub, but not so much on the language aspect of it.

I too have worked in the mine areas in WA and the NT. No one outside of the skilled areas, inlcuding driving dump trucks, had to have any experience at all, they were just put on and allotted to a job, could be a TA, a cleaner, a service truck hand, labourer, road train driver, scraper driver etc etc. Whatever minimal training needed was given on the job.

The problem with saying there are no people with the required skills is that miners clearly do not train anyone anymore.

Remember the Keating Training Guarantee Level? A miserable 1.5%? And what did employers do?

Spent it on long lunches for execs!

There is clearly no interest in Australia in training people even for basic jobs. Why do I say this? Because I have never seen a job ad' that says, 'drillers hands wanted - no experience required', or 'road train driver wanted - must have semi licence and road train training given', or 'brush hand required all training given' and so on.

Much easier to get a foreign worker with no knowledge of safety requirements or pay and conditions and then rip them off.

That is one way of causing a strike. Ripping someone off, Chinese or not.

That's funny I normally get knock backs because I have loads of experience and no degree. Funny old world ha.

Nino Culotta was right 40 years ago & he's still right today.

loads of experience and no degree.
Troposa,
Just do some pointless Tafe course, get some pointless certificate & call yourself Expert. Just bull$hit & they'll come.