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Why not offer recognized training

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It is suggested that imported workers can only work in the mines here if no locals can be found for the jobs.

Now if you have ever applied for a mining job, you have no doubt been told, sorry, we are looking for people with experience.

But how do you gain experience without being given a job.

So, rather than open to gates for imported workers, why not offer our own people real training so they can gain real, recognized experience.

It could even be on a hex debt style arrangement. After all, the wages would more than allow for this debt to be repaid.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 25 May 2012 4:53:22 PM
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All good , but is the labour available. Unemployment at 4.9% we are already over employed.
Posted by 579, Saturday, 26 May 2012 12:23:17 PM
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When a recent application for a Restricted Electrical Licence (Refrigeration)and ARCTIC certification was declined by the relevant licensing authorities it dawned upon me that I was a mug, simply by trying to do the "right thing". 16 + years studying at TAFEs (NSW, WA & NT) variously along the way employed as an apprentice/TA and such. No, when you have simply had it with unsafe & unethical employers along the way and told them so then it is no wonder Reinhardt has trodden the path of importing workers to get the job done. Admittedly we needed to tighten the way skilled trades are recognised & regulated. As well clean up the cowboys in the various industries. But please tell me how an out of work spud farmer or Cray-fisherman with no prior industry experience can pay $1900 for a 2 day course and now become an air con installer?
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Saturday, 26 May 2012 3:53:40 PM
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Rehctub has a good idea there, and there is every reason to believe that people would take up the opportunity. Unemployment is nothing like 4.9%. The figure is only so low because the government uses very restrictive methods of calculating it. Unlike our goverment, no reasonable person would consider someone employed because they did one hour of paid work in a week or worked for free for one hour in a family business. Just how bad the situation really is depends on your definition. According to Roy Morgan Research the real unemployment rate is twice the official figure

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/australian-unemployment-rate-twice-official-figure-according-to-roy-morgan-research/story-fn7j19iv-1226363543054

The Australia Institute estimates that the official unemployment rate only accounts for about a third of the unemployed, that the real rate is 14.3%, and 20.5% if you include the underemployed, part-time workers who want more hours.

http://www.tai.org.au/?q=node/25

It is understandable that businesses want prime age workers who have already been trained at someone else's expense and will put up with bad conditions because they want sponsorship for permanent residency. There is no reason to pander to them, however. The community as a whole picks up the social and welfare costs of the people who are excluded from employment.
Posted by Divergence, Saturday, 26 May 2012 7:03:29 PM
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Divergence, you took the words out of my mouth, as anyone who believes we have full employment, is either in government, or, is easily brainwashed.

If anyone seriously thinks we are fully employed, and those employed are happy with their work/hours/conditions, I would suggest the thousands who attend mining open career days should be evidence enough to blow that theory out of the water.

The fact is, many in the work force are on stand by, just waiting for a mining call up.

Unfortunately, they lack the necessary skill sets the miners are seeking, but most of them do speak fluent English and can read, write and communicate.

The way we are going, these mining companies will need interpreters just to communicate with the new found work force.

One time when I say a big BRARVO to the unions for sticking up for Aussie workers.

We have the people, we have the training staff, we simply need to join the dots to keep these jobs for ourselves.

The government must step in and put a stop to this ridiculous proposal.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 26 May 2012 7:47:13 PM
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Possibly that is where we should all re-skill and become interpreters?
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Sunday, 27 May 2012 4:40:27 PM
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