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Drugs - Criminalise or legalise?

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Thanks voterland I will look up your site.
I am concerned about an apathy that grows on this country.
We take our right to protest as a given.
But very few care to act
Josephus,sorry if that is badly spelled, no way you can truly think like that surely?
Apathetic as we are some always stand tall, in doing that voterland Anthonyv we can be proud.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 26 May 2012 7:04:54 AM
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votergland/quote..""Hip pocket nerve works well.""

yes cash flow is great
especially if its a tax..paid by fear..mainly upon drug users
[funny how rich drug lords got lawyers..actually there to defend them

but such is life..blissfully ignorant that govt allready seizes proceeds of 'crime'[look up what crime means sometime..;its about not hurting other's..or violating contract

[AND GOVT HAS VIOLATED ITS CONTRACT>>..
actually declared a revenue raising war..on its own people..geezz...yep the nerve...reveals yet more sin

""What about criminals liable to users
for the damage they cause.""

yes the real white collar crims..that steal our pensions/saving's funds[the real crims that got free lawyers..family trusts..and tax avoidance..sure hit them

BUT YA LOT OF GUTLESS MASGGOTS
prefer to criminaslise kids..lol..for drug choice

""Class action run by government.""
lets have a class action against BAD govt...and their colluding treason asets and family trust funds[often made by selling drugs..or dasngerous product..like asbestos..or ddt..or releasing ammonias gass lawfully..by the tons each day

get a life
wakke up to what govt has set up police to do..police policy
[let off the protected sacred ones]..wearing their conspicious wealth

the ritchest woman..isnt a womasn..its a family trust[ythat avoids paying any tax[billions of tax avoidments..but heck lets jail kids for a joint..

[MAKE GOVT steal her assets...
not their peoples assets..underr threat/dspin..by fraud]
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 26 May 2012 7:41:11 AM
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OUG who do you target as gutless Margot?
Afraid I see the impacts of drug use here in more than one poster.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 26 May 2012 3:15:02 PM
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Anthonyve,
Under age alcohol abuse is a higher percentage per teenage population than it has ever been and it is not detected by the police who only deal with violent street drunks and teenage drivers. Serving alcohol to under 18 year olds is an offence under the law. Should the police not charge suppliers and teenagers found drunk and unruly because it criminalises them. The larger part of social disorder is due to alcohol abuse should we abandon the laws because it happens anyway, and it is on the increase?

Such thinking as to remove criminal charges is brain dead logic. Are you going to dob in an illegal drug seller? Or are you one of their lobbying supporters?

We will se how you value the life of our young minds!
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 27 May 2012 8:58:22 AM
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Josephus,
Once again, you have a little rant.
But where's your data?
Also, you are confusing alcohol with drugs currently illegal.
Ask youself this. If a law was to be passed today banning alcohol, making alcohol as illegal as other drugs, would it reduce alcohol consumption?
Answer: Absolutely not.
How do we know this?
Because of the US experieince with Prohibilition. (Clue: as the Spanish philosopher George Santayana said, "Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it).
You can carry on about alcohol and draw false comparisons all you like, but you cannot escape what the data tells us loud and clear, and that is, that what we are doing about illegal drugs now is failing. Fact! The data is inescapable.
Ergo we shouldn't try to solve a problem by doing harder what isn't working.
Or, to quote Einstein, "There's a special kind of madness in repeating the actions of the past and expecting a different result."
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au
Posted by Anthonyve, Sunday, 27 May 2012 1:30:24 PM
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they are the lawyers
who write laws..that other lawyers make into law

judged by other former lawyers[now judging the law]

then the lawyers judging appeals to the law[the lot of them lawyers running the two party scam..via public service lawyer's..[and many union's..and all faMILY TRUSTS/investments..tranbsphering public assets into private licence

the lot of em..[lawyers]
ignorance of the real law is no excuse
reveal where govt was permitted to declare a real war on its trust

its unconstitutional[except the judges that wrote the laws..now sit and refuse appeal's..based in law[realestate law..is either valid or its not law]..the law of fictures proves a plant aint no drug

just like booze aint jonnie walker
but its still booze..[boozse death statistics,...HAVE CTUALLY BEEN MODIFIED*..[of the deaths by drunk..[5000]..the numbers were REDUCED*]lol]..because of the assumed..BENIFIT..of a drink

really mate
the numbers are changed under accountancy..spin
[heck there was a report..that in the north[by the nnumber's everyone was random drug tested]..yet it was again accountants..[using modifiers]

much like the lies used in the fagerette tax
35 billion social cost..[ie all costs including bying it]
when the actual medical cost TRUE MEDICAL COST..was only 800 million

i told your lying lawyers then
and i told you..but i still got the new big tax

ha ha[and now there going after fatty food and suger[diabetus]
who are the biggest cost user..to medical aid[purely diet and life style disease[costing heaps more than smoking ATTRIBUTED deaths[as previously told to you

GOVT DOES NO AUTOPSIES[re cause of death]
if a docter has attributed one

[and they get govt gifts/trips..
for writing death 'by smoking'

sure big business has highjacked the adgennda
but the lobby did its job..[it got govt cash]..enough to buy out their targeted/hated multinational..suplier

[next the booze haters buy up boze merchants
tax you[put huge burdens on it]..send the bludgers broke
tyhen onto[next big big suger..big transfat..big unions..nurses super your banbked savings..your invested savings

evil runs this realm
by their silence are they revealed and reviled..
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 27 May 2012 2:13:33 PM
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