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Drugs - Criminalise or legalise?

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Very succinctly put Anthonyve and correct as well. The type of associations you are making are a little hysterical and are mythology on this subject runner.

It also displays a complete lack of understanding for the many and various, and complex reasons people use drugs, alcohol, tobacco or other any form of recreational ingestion. Addiction is only one of them. Being of bad character is specifically not one of the reasons why people do such things to themselves.

As for the mind addling capacities of drug abuse, alcohol comes in king by a mile being a voracious destroyer of brain cells and other organs, and having the additional dangerous capacity to be inebriating. Alcohol is one of a very small group of drugs that has this capacity.

This is why a person who is drunk is thoroughly convinced in their own mind that they are capable of driving a motor vehicle, wish to pick a fight, or think it might be a good time to rape someone.

Is it from your understanding of alcohol that you base/form your understanding of all other substances runner ?.

The bad guys are actually the ones whom supply the illicit drugs whom send their kids to a private school by day, whom may well think just like you do runner, (drugs adle minds,create murderers and rapists etc) but just do it anyway because they are bad people taking advantage of the situation.

Irrational fear should not be the driver on this subject all that will do is create more police with more power, more deterioration in civil liberties, more intrusion to privacy etc and so on.

This will effect everyone even people whom don't use drugs, drink or smoke runner, and the cycle will go on, gun battle's for territory will increase in foreign lands etc and so on. Demand for product will increase not decrease in a never ending self perpetuating loop.

The case for a rethink is strong.
Posted by thinker 2, Thursday, 24 May 2012 12:30:54 AM
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That is right decriminalise drugs and the dregs of society will destroy themselves just like our teenage drunks.

Or do we educate your young on self worth and social contribution? I was involved for nine years in the development of a farm for addicts to encourage abstanance and self esteem. A close friend of mine daughter has a relationship with a young man on drugs and introduced her to cannabis. In the height of her use she could bail up a person with a knife and threaten them for money. He from use is today 15 years later a zombie with parkinsons disease. Decrimanise the stuff and make it freely available at low prices and let the young with low self image destroy themselves.

Why are we increasing the price of nicotine with taxes? to make it less desirable. We have black market trade on nicotine. Obviously decrimalising harmful drugs is not the best answer, it is just that those with that agenda wish to set up shop front outlets so will not give up. They do not have a real answer. They will be the new thugs in our society like the bike clubs. Ask those who have been released from addiction what is the answer.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 24 May 2012 4:07:42 AM
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Apart from runner, nothing said by him can be separated from his VERSION of Christianity.
We should get deeper , some seem to claim change is never possible.
That every thing is set in concrete we just need follow.
I take head on the thought grog kills more, its not true.
And should play no roll in a debate about illegal drug use.
Grass? well OUG I too know about it,even did the draw back, at times with a police officer, it too can kill, the brain for sure.
HOWEVER we talk about how we handle all drugs.
Enforcement will never be possible for grass.
Are we, each of us, happy with the crime corruption coming from drugs.
Politicians police power full people said to have increased their fortune by involvement.
Would contact with every user help SOME get away from it.
Do we have the guts to look for a better way.
Can Australia lead instead of following.
No conspiracy, just truth,do many of us know America, via the CIA traffic drugs to take its young away from protest movements.
And to arm its Friends?
To help the murders in south America, drugs decay our young.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 24 May 2012 6:32:43 AM
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dear runner
cannabis..is a plant..a seed beareing plant[not a drug]
the 'drug' is called thc..it has 3 stages..a pre thc anti-drug
and a post thc form of non drug..[that makes one sleepy]..regardless a drug is a PURE EXTRACT..in this case its called hash..

but lets ask god
genesis 1;29/30..please fel free
to judge drugs with drugs and plants with plants
[get it straight..this is satans realm..and its built on lies

as one justice staples famously said
how absurd a law..that seeks to classify a plant a drug

if i sold you wilow bark..calling it asprin..you would rightfully say thats not asprin..[cannabis is not a drug]..but by the lie of deeming the whole plant..AS IF it is a drug..has made yet further lies

please read the damm rule book
what is the plant mentioned on the last page of the book?
its design..is described...in exodus.25;31-40//please read 40 very carefully

''and look that you make them..after the patern''..
[of the burning bush]..''you saw on the mount..!

please read the holy texts..and stop making satans laws
and worse defending the indefensable..this isnt rape[except to the 37,ooo qlders criminalised last year alone..via the lie of a plant..being a drug

1%..of our population
mainly kids..gets criminalised every year
its satanic stuff demons deliver to their master..[and you defend it]

ignorance of the law is no excuse
god made a fixture...your satanists made it a drug
god gave us all the seed of the plant...that its fruits..be revealed

not just one fruit..per month
but 35.000 in a year..and thats just product refined from the stem and seed..

a drug..is a powder/or concentrait..of puyre 'drug
a plant cant be a drug..and even if it is..read genesis 1;29

you defend man
yet dispute god?
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 May 2012 6:48:01 AM
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yes belly many have tried it
and some like it..[my kids didnt]

now you smoked with a cop[hey me too]
thing is all you can feel..is the affect..of your arteries opening
physiological response..is all it does..the arteries expand[thus the red eye's..[nicoten narrows the arteries]..that 'rush'..people cal it..is a rush of blood presure lowering..as the pipes relax

this relaxation makes the bodies endorphine have their seeming affect
[hence the comfort eating]..sure its illegal..but made illegal by a lie..

see how your 'trying' it..was done with your mind filled with all the madeup fears assosiated with breaking a law..and maybe becomming a drug death

BUT MATE>>NOT ONE DEATH EVER*
this is fact../you claim deaths..PRESENT DETAILS

there arnt any
yet the spin/lies and deciete go on
[its conspirede and inspired...crim inalise a plant..lol
only god can make a seed grow..]

if you think getting revenge on me
is worth criminalising kids..millions each year..that reveals much about your thinking..[and the thinking that says clean up that mess..unionist]..cause its not poisen..asbestos woint hurt you..ddt is a vitamion..c02 is a poisen

mate read the signs
dont die in hate by ignorance
its lies mate..lies..just like your seeing a glimpse of at your topic

yet fail to see here
read genesis 1.;29 mate..is god wrong
is your acceptance of lies so strong..its a lie

now how to fix it
how do you take back half a century of lies
[and there are even then yet bigger lies..like the one people are ignoring you trying to fix

you only got one lie your trying to correct
i got 5
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 May 2012 7:06:51 AM
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one under god,
Not all plants are safe for human use, not even comon garden plants.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:52:49 AM
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