Hasbeen,

Now that you mention images of dastardly power station chimneys emitting steam, don't forget that photograph of a poor polar bear stuck on a lump of ice which obviously was all that remained of the entire Arctic Ocean - it clearly wasn't a photo of a polar bear stuck on some random bit of ice-floe - in fact it represented irrefutable evidence of AGW and the unutterable evils of callous and uncaring capitalism.

Clearly, from that photo, the science is settled. Move your house up the hill ten or twenty metres, get ready for heat-waves even hotter than those of our childhood years, and kiss your @@@@ good-bye.

Cheers,

Joe

http://www.liberal.org.au/~/media/Files/Policies%20and%20Media/Environment/The%20Coalitions%20Direct%20Action%20Plan%20Policy%20Web.ashx
Rubbish? yes! but an answer for hasbeen and his like who find ABC and lefty dills drive the issue.
Not so! Conservatives lead by Abbott have the same cut as a target.
Unfortunately we do not have enough land to plant that many trees, but lets not pretend it is only Labor cutting.

Luciferase
as you have allegedly used some unknown name to sign the petition, there is no way of proving your stupid point.
How do you know if there is no vetting procedure? If so, why don't you expose some of the names on the petition as being unqualified? Of course, you don't have to answer these questions as your past form is against replying to direct questions. All you do is spew out your garbage while refusing to reply in a relevant manner.
If anyone has a gall, it is you.
Not just a comedian, but an idiot too.

Plant, you have to forgive me for thinking that you meant me when you mentioned insults. It's just that when you wrote 'Gezzz..where all full of insults today. No Mr powerless', I thought you meant me. Obviously you meant another Mr. Powerless.
To your question, I think we should ignore what is not obvious and carry on into the future, instead of listening to crack-pot cretins like Flannery, especially after they have been proved wrong.
Or you could just go out and destroy our industries while China and India laugh at us as 'stoopit Austlarians'.

Dear Hasbeen,

Sigh again.

You aked “Gee that's interesting csteele, where do I find this dark CO2?”

If you were sitting above the atmosphere wearing a pair of infrared glasses it actually would appear to be darkening the view of the surface. But that may test your imagination. I much prefer to try and explain things rather than dive for external links but I have weakened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot5n9m4whaw

When you first started posting on this thread I gave you the benefit of the doubt since they appeared to hold the promise of something more substantial to come. But there really isn't anything is there.

Now the posts are just written diarrhoea across the page. I have asked the same question of you numerous times and you have gone missing only to show up when you thought the heat was off.

You are truly the emperor with no clothes aren't you.

Really, if you have nothing concrete to offer other than trotting out unsubstantiated statements why don't you stop smelling up the thread?

Or you could try and answer my question; “What law of physics would you like me to ignore to come to the conclusion that a doubling of CO2 will have zero effect on the climate of this planet.”

Let me remind you this is what you said to one attempt to get you to answer earlier; “Emotive stuff is all well & good when talking about the movies, not science, & csteele your understanding of physics is at about primary school level, if your last post is an example.”

Yet all your posts since have been highly emotive. Just give me your understanding of the physics.

If you are unable to answer fine, just say so, otherwise as they say in the classics... put up or shut up.

Steely baby, you know I would think that papers published by NASA telling us that all those computer models of the IPCC & their fellow travelers are totally wrong, is more than a little substantial.

I would actually think that the fact that all those models are wrong would catch the attention of someone who wanted to know the truth. Says quite a bit that you ignored that bit.

One last thing to prove your legitimacy, or lack there of.

Physics tells us that doubling CO2 in the atmosphere could increase the temperature by about 0.7 C. To gain further warming requires positive feed back from somewhere, assumed water vapor & clouds.

All the recent research tells us that the feed back is negative, not positive, thus reducing some or all of that huge 0.7 C.

The moment we get some warmy talking about 4 C or even 6 C, we know it is a fraudster talking politics, not science. Who do you report to mate?

Plant3.1: that’s an interesting hypnosis "a trance state characterized by extreme suggestibility, relaxation and heightened imagination.

My poor attempt at satire I'm afraid. but you got that.

Sorry Hasbeen, While cSteels attacking you cSteel is leaving me alone. ;-) Damm, I do love her. Then again I am a Masochist. Don't beat me, Don't beat me. Oh well, just a little bit.