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Bob Brown Truly A Great Australian

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OK Ludwig, you asked. I don't support anyone, but here's my take on some.

Brown is an arrogant disgusting little nutter, who with the rest of his mob have destroyed the lives & dreams of many in Tasmania, & are now spreading the disease to the mainland.

Rudd was obviously an idiot disgusting slime ball, from the moment he started destabilizing Beasley.

Gillard got rid of the slime so had one tick, however it took only a few weeks to see her total lack of morals. The mere sight or sound of her turns my stomach today.

Your dream man Carr is an arrogant old fool who did great damage to the people of NSW, who are still suffering. He should be handcuffed to that other old fool Fraser, & the pair put out to pasture where they can do no more damage. They deserve each other.

Beattie was a Qld Carr, a bl00dy catastrophe, & Anna was an unfortunate hiccup on the way to someone better we hope. She was about as much use as that noisy little girl they has in NSW for a few months.

Newman has started well, but has a tough road with our mess. He'll have to be good to sort Qld out. How he goes from now will depend on how good he is at sorting the advice he's given.

I wanted for years to see the back of old Joh, then realised how good he had been after we got the wish. Memo to self, be careful what you wish for.

Kennett looked pretty good, from a mildly interested long range. Victoria has certainly gone down hill since him.

Abbott comes across as a real person, who wants to do the right thing. If he can tell good advice from bad he could be as good as Howard, the best we've had in my time.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:15:38 PM
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Bob Brown was a consummate fringe politician, pushing causes with ideological cache but eminently impractical. His party has largely been responsible for the de industrialisation of Tasmania, where about 50% of government revenue comes from the GST from other states.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 15 April 2012 3:56:26 AM
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Every one of us should make time to truly look at our past.
And truly in depth the policy's of the party's we oppose and the one we support.
Paul talks about my party as it was 75 years ago.
Liberals of that time best resembled what my party is today.
We each of us, talk about our wants and needs, in Paul's case dreams.
A far more important group exists.
We call them voters.
12%, knowing our system lets us have two choices, hence two two party preferred, a second vote,is not evidence of mainstream support.
Such as I , in a Conservative like denial, am told it is fear/bias/or ever betrayal of my class to say greens are bound to decline.
How many understand Browns biggest win,Franklin dam,was only possible after Bob Hawk did it for him.
We , even many greens, do not want the very yes very, left unions and refugees from Labor to hold any power.
Harsh, but in my view true, tell me please why it is not! far more fear the greens than have ever voted for them.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 15 April 2012 4:47:05 AM
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A natural conservative would be happy with the cozy two party system. Like the US where there is little difference between the big two, there is nothing more than a slight difference of emphases between Labor and Liberal in Australia.
Belly a question or two. What does the Australian Labor Party stand for in 2012? What are the major differences between the ALP and the Liberal Party in 2012?
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 15 April 2012 7:27:06 AM
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Thanks Hasbeen. That certainly helps me to understand your perspective. I’m surprised; you do actually support one or two people….well, sort of…..to a small extent!

<< Brown is an arrogant disgusting little nutter >>

Whoa! He has certainly been one of Australia’s best and most sincere politicians, with much of the right sort of philosophy in an era with so much terribly misguided political activity.

But his genuineness and passion was just so awfully compromised by his lack of expression on continuous growth.

At the time that concern and expression about this was at an all-time high – following Rudd’s demise, with discussion about a big Australia - Brown remained silent.

While Dick Smith and a host of other high-profile people were talking about the stupidity of very high immigration with no end in sight and engendering a lot of debate, Brown issued a single statement, no doubt under great duress from the media wanting to know the Greens’ position.

He broadly supported population stabilisation. And that was the end of it.

He had all the opportunity in the world to move the Greens strongly behind David Attenborough, Kelvin Thomson, Bob Carr, John Coulter, Ian Low and Sustainable Population Australia Inc, but kept his distance and therefore effectively supported the massive Liberal and Labor antienvironmental antisustainable momentum.

Hopeless!!

So….. I wonder if Christine Milne and Adam Bandt have got any inclination to try and fix this gaping hole in the Greens’ politics.

Probably not.
Posted by Ludwig, Sunday, 15 April 2012 10:13:55 AM
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at some stage in your life you have utilised those services in hospital, using the roads, public transport...
Pelican,
Of course I have and, I have paid for them a lot more than many others who use them a lot more also.
I am fed up with the Public Service because it's a service in name only. I witness the insane spending sprees by many Public Servants on a daily basis. People who really aren't doing their job, many don't even what they;re supposed to be doing.
My gripes with the likes of the Greens is that just about all of them are quite ok with other people losing their jobs because of some airy-fairy Green idealist policy. Most woodcutters or industrial workers would rather not be in those jobs which affect the environment. But, because we have such a huge Public Service which screams out for better pays/conditions etc. & other hangers-on, these workers have to do what they do.
I have proposed this before but got no takers; For every job lost due to a Green policy, a green should forfeit employment as well. Let's see ho long they remain green before turning brown.
Ideaology is nice but being able to provide for your family is more important.
Why do the Greens condemn us for being negative all the time ? Why don't they ever come up with practical, workable policies ? Give us a reason to support the Greens.
The ball's in your court.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 15 April 2012 10:31:55 AM
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