Arjay where do you get this stuff from. The Greens are the least likely party to be swayed by corporate interests. That is why most people vote for them (well one of the reasons anyway). If they were so influenced by corporate interests they would not be wasting time ensuring that business interests do not always win over important environmental protection - something that ultimately affects us all

Hi Poirot You said:
"It's kinda like the way the lower middle-class mercilessly criticise the working class. They feel threatened by a group that has similar origins, attractions and aspirations - a group to whom they feel superior and a greater sense of entitlement."
Another example of this is when the slaves were freed following the American civil war, their biggest enemy was not rich conservative whites but rather poor whites who seen the blacks as competitors for jobs housing etc.
I often shock some within the Greens when I raise this very point. Greens who see Labor as our 'friends' and the Liberals as the enemy. Its not always so clear cut and its something we Greens need to address at times. I often find myself agreeing with small 'l' liberals on issues, particularly social justice issues where I cannot say the same for conservative Labor people.

Poirot, Paul 1405 can I be clear, and honest?
Greens are indeed the home for disenchanted ALP voters.
Paul it seems was one of them.
I see most, not all, of that part of the greens as the very left,and very uninformed.
It is all very well to lament Labor moving from its Socialist path, but if the greens did so well, and Labor lost ground because of it?
Why is the green vote 12%
Fact is Australia is not buying Socialism, opening up a shop to sell left handed shoes limits potential sales.
The end result of greens is Conservative governments 12% of the vote 50% of the reason for unhappiness with Labor.
I have no fear of greens, the exit of Brown hastens its fall from grace.
Is it possible, tell me please,to hold a view different than yours, and not be biased?
I wait with unshaken certainty, for the decline of the greens beginning next federal election.
Not nasty not haveing a shot, just considered thought.

Peilican,"The Greens least likely to be swayed by corporate interests?" You cannot trust any of the parties now in Parliament.They were all bought out long ago.Billy Hughes changed parties more often than he changed his underware.Billy Hughes scuttled the power of the Commonwealth Bank to create new money debt free for Australians in 1922.

The elites control us in two major ways.One is the counterfeiting of our productivity via fractional reserve banking and the other is energy.The urgency now to bring in a World Govt is that new technology will make energy really cheap and abundant and people will be free of their debt scams and energy cartels .It has nothing to do with saving the planet.It is all about absolute power.

Belly, I consider you are wrong on a number of counts. You say "Greens are indeed the home for disenchanted ALP voters." This is a misconception, an easy error to make due to our closeness to Labor, something I feel is a mistake on our part. I favor a far more independent course to the extent of favoring some Liberals over Labor. At the next Federal Election in the seat I am a branch member, which is held by Labor with a margin of 6% I expect to be on the election committee and knowing who the Liberal candidate will be and having a fair idea who may well be the Labor candidate, not the present member but a right wing catholic, I will again make the case 'not to preference Labor' if that gets up it will most likely see a Liberal win, not a problem for me.
You say: "I wait with unshaken certainty, for the decline of the greens beginning next federal election." I can only go on the recent results in NSW and Qld where there was a massive swing against the Labor Party. NSW saw a 16% swing, a conservative avalanche when right wing conservatives deserted Labor on mass, with little affect on the Green vote. In fact we picked up our first lower house seat and did well in the upper house, however overall there was a small decrease in our vote, to be expected with a conservative avalanche. I expect much the same at the next federal election.
I know you will find this hard to believe, despite the Murdicks and Jones of this world, there are many voters who actually agree with Greens policy, and vote for us, I expect they will do so again at the next election. We hold 10 seats in the Federal Parliament, how many seat does your party hold in Queensland?

Surely not, for that would make him "Brown"...hang on...
Poirot,
That comes from something else.