Why do the policital parties & the Media not get the truth from the average Australian. When will a new policital party emerge that gets back to Australian Fundimentals (perhaps a good name for a party), we once had the Australian Democrats to keep the bastards honest, but now we have nothing. can they not see that we do not want the labour party, we do not want the LNP, and no we dont want the greens or a bunch of independants. Our legal system is in taters, our boarders are open to free loaders, (why is it we have to pay their cost and they don't have to pay it back, our kids have to pay it back when they go to Uni). Come on Australia if they will not find a qualified leader with some Australian fundimentals & philosophy's lets tell the politicians we can not vote because no one has met the criteria in the job description

I totally share your concerns wanderer-001.

I wish that this mob would gain a huge following and become a political force to be reckoned with:

http://www.populationparty.org.au/

i reply so you dont get that
no one cares thing..but heck talk about stating the bleeding obvious

im more into a full fair fix
to the spin bluster and 24 hour news cucle

forget sending twiters to twitwits
give us a live worm graph

so we can give our
real time spin dection red flag warnings..as they go to air*

expose lies in real time
and letting the wurm moderate
the direction of the next question

live time all the time
in everything...the wurm is accorded three votes

anywhere...in govt in court
if enough want the worm to turn

the worm turns
[up to 3 votes up or down]

concerned people
MUST HAVE THEIR WAY..to have THEIR SAY*
plus some powers*/privledge/obligation*

Wanderer-101, I’m a long time poster on OLO and we haven’t yet crossed swords. That said I have no issue with this thread and so, seemingly, neither does Ludwig. Now that is a statement of bi-partisanship. Congratulations.

I think you really hit the nail on the head when you said, “Why do the political parties & the Media not get the truth from the average Australian”. The significant and almost Freudian point here is the link between the political parties and the media.

Why would there be a link if there was no partisanship?

Media partisanship is, IMHO, one of the main reasons why the Government is in so much deep doo-doo.

Australians are a nation of “intuitors”. Perhaps our convict background, European heritage, republican origins or just tall poppy syndrome? Regardless of the reasons, we are hard wired against spin, bull dust and most of all, being patronized. So why, in spite of our heritage and background, do our current crop of politicians still feel they can ignore what it is that makes us Australian? Could it be that it is our politicians who have become un-Australian?

It is the MSM in MHO, which is primarily responsible for the mess that JG and the ALP find themselves in. They are the advocates that promote that which Australians are opposed to.

Your post has evoked all that is contradictory in Australian politics today. At this stage at least, you offer no solutions, just the raw questions that seem to be foremost in electoral consciousness at this point in time.

I trust that OLO’ers do the justice and honesty that you thread deserves. Congratulations.

No such party, and there have been many, has made it.
Include the greens and Democrats, greens are about to see the costs of miss use of power.
No party, from any base,can win government with the thoughts wishes ideas of it supporters alone driving it.
There is the problem with hung Parliament politics, and too with minority's haveing too much power.
I would be unsurprised if voters put their first choice followed by the other side.
Say Labor Prefferencing Liberals, to restore majority government.
Not for further complicate it by giving birth to yet another party of self interest.

Sorry wanderer-001, I gave you 100 more than specified at wanderer-101.

Perhaps another Freudian slip on my part? Your post is really worth 101 rather than 001? Don't spoil it by being loose with your responses. You have OLO'ers on a string, don't let them off the hook.

Belly, you’re such a tragic.

wanderer-001 points to some real grass roots issues that you above all posters should be able to address and which deserve much better than your tired, over cooked, ideological, text book clap trap. When are you going to exercise even the minutest “original thought” rather than the piss ant diatribe you constantly serve up?

For goodness sake, try to put your brain into gear before you start typing. What do YOU stand for? Or are you just an ideological mouthpiece with absolutely no capacity for self declaration?

You are shamed by both your incapacity to offer rational self thought and by the utter inadequacy of your “canned” responses. Get a life for goodness sake and do some real justice to the isues raised by wanderer-001. Shame on you. Is this how losers reconcile their dysfunctionality?

Loven it!
Thanks bloke!
True your post is evidence of hurt pain and defeat.
And outstanding proof!
Only the letter T separates a Wit from a Twit.

Australian Politics has gone to the dogs,
wanderer-001,
sorry, but if you were trying to emulate a british understatement you'll need to try harder. Otherwise though I couldn't agree more.
I think just about all Govt Departments are failing us. Law & Order is a Joke, Permits & Licences are over the top, Accountability is at an alarming low.
What really scares the hell out of me is that so many have it so good that they simply can not see reality. Those in authority are the worst offenders.
Governments typically always consult academic experts rather than people who know.
Those who know are ridiculed to no end.
Bring on a conservative Government & change the heads of Departments at the same time.
It really is the only way out.

spindoc just said in more words than me that some on here read from a party script. For someone as inteligent as him I would have thought he would have cottoned onto it sooner. AstroTurfers are what they're called, spindoc :)

One of the main issues with politics is that the 'hanger ones' are also voters, so of cause, they will vote for anyone who keeps dishing out the handouts.

Now given that so many today rely on welfare of some sought, from any political parties point of view, look after them and you are well on your way to gaining power.

People must one day come to the realization, that we must all pull our own weight, and as another here said if you can't afford them, don't have them.

As tough as that may sound, it's realities like these that we as a nation must face up to, prob sooner, rather than latter I would suggest, as a repeat of the past four odd years would see us heading south big time, especially if the uncontrolled waste and hand outs ccntinue.