I shall now put paid to my lying detractors.http://www.dailypaul.com/105079/microchiping-included-in-healthcare-bill

"The secretary shall establish a national medical service registry( in this subsection referred to as the registry) to facilate the analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data,on each device that "(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and (B) is a class (III) device: or " (II) as a class II device that is IMPLANTABLE."

In ' real world speak',according to this report,this new law,when fully implenmented,provied the framework for making the United States the first nation in the world to require each and everyone of it's citizens to have implanted in them an radio frequency identification micro chip ( RFID) for the purpose of controlling who is,or isn't allowed medical care in their country.

There is no mention of opting out of this national registry.In other words you either have one or expect a long wait to get medical service.So Pericles,I await your apologies, but won't hold my breath.

Robert I was unable to open your link that disproves my assertions.Could you please post one that works.

Arjay in real worldspeak that rquires a registry of devices not mandatory devices.

I was horrified when it was revealed that there does not seem to be a record of breast implants when it was found that one manufacturer was using industrial silicon. There should be a rcord of every implant, that does not translate into breast implants being compulsary.

R0bert

Robert we are playing with sematics here.If they delay treatment because you refuse a chip and your life depends upon it,that means obligatory implant.So where is your link that works?

Arjay I just downloaded the Pdf via the link from the post to test it. Whats the error?

R0bert

Don't panic R0bert, your link to the government website of federal documents worked fine for me as did its download.

Arjay I'm not going to do your work for you. That due diligence is your responsibility… But I'll give you three clues:

One, try US Food and Drug Administration Code of Federal Regulations title 21 part 860 subchapter H – Medical Devices. The different classes refer to the types of safety, scientific evidence and assurances of health benefits and the absence of unreasonable risk of illness or injury.

Two, the registry referred to in HR 3200 is of medical devices not people, and

Three, implantable medical devices include things like artificial heart valves (my father had one – worked well) or chemo pumps (my mother had one – it worked well, but the cancer worked better, unfortunately).

RFIDs don't qualify as medical devices under the FDA definitions which apply to HR 3200 – unless you've managed to find genuine information to the contrary.

I am pleased you're not holding your breath – hypoxaemia can be a real bitch to the brain.

What amazes me WM trevor is that there is no mention of Obama's Preventative Detention,legalised assasination by CIA of suspected terrorists and now The National Defence Authorisation Act.How can you trust him with new legislation on RFID implants when he has trashed just about every promise he made pre-election? A bit like Juliar.

To say you trust Obama on anything based on his track record,you'd have to be a fool.