Arjay,

I wasn't under the impression that credibility, intellect or integrity was an integral feature of this thread.

Actually, I have in the past pondered your premise...but I don't like your tone, so I'm gonna read a book instead ('The Fabric of the Cosmos' - Brian Greene)

Arjay leaving aside the 911 topic I'm wondering about a few things related to this issue.

- Do you now accept that "Obama has mandated in his new health Care Bill Radio Frequency Identification chips" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5052#135730 is not actually true?
- If you still believe it to be true as written then can you point to the section(s) which mandate the fitting of RFID chips. Note I'm not asking what direction you think Obama is heading in, rather I'm asking for proof of the quite specific claims that you made in the opening post.
- If you now accept that Obama has not mandated RFID chips in that health bill were you aware that the statement was false when you opened the thread or did you read what others had written and not check it?

R0bert

Robert it is in his health care bill.You have witnessed the ads by Obama premoting it.It does not specifically use the word mandate or compulsory but as I've stated they will delay treatment if you don't comply.

You are not physically forced to wear a seat belt but will get fined for not having one on.Are seat belts mandatory?

It is creeping fascism and Aaron Russo did a movie called,'From Freedom to Fascism.' Arguing the degree of fascism will not lessen it's effects.Obama has done more to destroy the US Constitution under left cover than Bush could ever have achieved.Have a look at Naomi Wolf's 10 easy steps to fascism.The USA is almost there.

The foot prints continue, is it in an effort to forget the mandate claim.
Or to hide the true intent was not to identifies people but medical parts.
Poirot joins us on the silly beggars bench, no place here, it is full.
I think we can not over look 50 plus posts have been seen here so far.
So saying some thing so controversial is at least bringing interest.
And much Laughter.

Arjay, the health bill did not mandate RFID chips to be implanted in the US polulation. By claiming that it did you lose an audience which might otherwise be interested in the implications of the RFID advertisement combined with the scope of the mandated device register (and links to other data sources).

There is a case to make regarding the loss of freedom and the potential dangers to freedom associated with implants which would aid monitoring of the movements of people. I can invisage that once the use of RFID chips was common place things could be made much more difficult for those without them, special treatment at airports and other government controlled sites, back of the queue processing for medical treatment etc.

There are some real risks (and some potential benefits). By starting the thread with a false claim discussion of those issues has not so far occurred.

R0bert

Why not simply admit that you were wrong, Arjay. Then we can all move on.

>>It does not specifically use the word mandate or compulsory but as I've stated they will delay treatment if you don't comply.<<

That is actually close to the truth, when you think about it. Since the whole point of implants being to monitor the patient's physical status in some way or another, having one will almost certainly ensure faster - and more accurate - treatment.

But as we know, that doesn't even come close to what you had in mind.

>>...if you want medical care and don't have a chip,treatment will be refused... They will make this a requirement for people with dementure or psychiatric patients and then amke it a requirement for rest of the population... making the United States the first nation in the world to require each and everyone of it's citizens to have implanted in them an radio frequency identification micro chip ( RFID) for the purpose of controlling who is,or isn't allowed medical care in their country... Nick revealled that the ultimate goal was to have everyone chipped and thus have total control of society... They will make the rfid chip replace the passport and it will contain access to your bank account.There will be no cash...<<

Which, if any, of those assertions are you prepared to stand by?

And who exactly is this Nick Rothschild anyway?

Your mum's calling. It's time for your nap.