Individual,
There is a real problem in your assertion.
You say, "Labor, or rather ALP is incompetent".
Now, the ALP is a party, so what do you really mean?
There are at least three possibilities I can think of:
1. People who choose to join the Australian Labor Party are by definition incompetent - difficult assertion to support.
2. By ALP, you mean the people who make up this particular government. If this is what you mean, then you ought to clarify, but anyway, it's a bit sweeping, don't you think, to say that an entire government is incompetent.
Like most governments, this one is doing some things very well, Health for example, and somethings very badly, selling the logic behind its actions to the electorate and Immigration are two areas that spring to mind.
3. That the Australian Labor Party itself is incompetent. But, assuming you are not referring to the way it administers itself, then you must mean the party itself. But the party is really a group of philosophies. So, are you making the case that the philosophies of the ALP inherently lead to incompetence? This is also a difficult assertion to support.
So, precisely what do you mean when you say that the ALP is incompetent?
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

Athonyve you fish in a dry dam.
No water for decades and never will be.
Fine contributors one now dead, tried to get clarity about why Indy thinks as he does.
Indeed what he thinks.
I am not able to be sure Indy thinks at all.
I can not get my head around him.
Praise for Lang, ignorance of achievements like National Superannuation, Banking reform, NBN fast becoming a Conservative policy.
The party of change is the ALP.
Individual may find him self isolated in a Conservative meeting, he is difficult to follow.
I individual am proud, of coming disability safety net, Carbon tax, NBN pension rises.
I fear tax cuts for the richest, middle class welfare, a product meant for the needy not the greedy.
I fear Abbott's 5% cut in emissions scheme will not work, and that the workers pay for it, profiting are rich mates.
I too am proud, of myself, My opinions of you Indy could have been hurtful, but I hold back.
You are doing the best you can.

ignorance of achievements like National Superannuation,
Belly,
Massively wrong again. Go back into my posting history & you'll find the one where I specifically pointed out the one good thing that came from the ALP. It was, read carefully-Superannuation.
Do yourself a big favour & ignore me because I'm sick of wasting my posting credit on your defensive & pointless dribble.

Antonyve,
ALP vs Labor
Labor= Australian Labor Party doctrine for the working class.
ALP = Academics, Lawyers. Preposterous pretend doctrine for the working class. Real doctrine fleece the workers & give to the hangers-on.
If you don't understand that then not even the ALP can help you.

Individual, i don't mean to be difficult, but ALP stands for Australian Labor Party.
You seem to be asserting that the ALP is some subgoup of lawyers and academics.
The fact is that anybody can join the ALP, so what are you talking about?
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

Indy ok.
I told you twenty times twenty I would no longer talk to you.
Then as an act of kindness tried yet again.
I take your offer, try, very hard, not to tempt me by constantly referring to me in your posts.
I am not being nasty, not deliberately targeting you.
Remember even you found no reason to rebut my thoughts that you insult almost every post.
I leave you with this.
I try first to be kind, always, I am reminded of my youth, in Summer Hill in Sydney.
Dashing for a train on my way home to my city home in Granville.
A fellow stood every day waiting to sell me his helicopter.
See I had said Gday to him.
Not many did.
He was so happy that I took the time every day.
Offered him 5 shillings but he held out for ten.
was that you?

Belly,
just read the vindictiveness in your words.