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Clive Palmers CIA Link?

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What a bizarre comment by Palmer, one that I see he is already backing away from quick smart and for good reason. It is a nonsense probably designed to get the conspiracy theorists blood up to divert attention from much more powerful vested interests.

Think about it, how many times has an environmental campaign won over industry interests. Very few. The extremists are clearly on the industry side of this argument.

'A total of $10.85m in taxpayer’s money paid to the same activist NGO’s threatening our industries. Then our complicit treasurer last week slammed the Greenpeace plans as "deeply irresponsible" and "completely irrational and destructive", yet he is paying members of the group? '

That amount pales in comparison to taxpayer money paid out to industry. Funds given to NGOs is usually about outsourcing social responsibilities to the non-government sector and thus being seen to care about the environment.

There is much hysteria about the Greens threatening certain industries but very little concern about the impact of these industries in relation to environmental degradation.

If we are still so primitive that we cannot see the relationship between environment and human wellbeing and survival it looks like it might only take a disaster for the world to wake up.

Those destructive industries don't seem to consider their own threats to other industries including tourist based industry, when going about their business.

There is room for a balance including some thoughts about the energy mix and changes to consumption. There is no doubt that with a growing population and economic development in the developing world that people will have to start being more careful in their consumption. It is really not that difficult.
Posted by pelican, Sunday, 25 March 2012 12:25:32 PM
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pelican,

yep, I have to agree with most of your comments here and your reference to <<Funds given to NGOs is usually about outsourcing social responsibilities to the non-government sector and thus being seen to care about the environment>> is valid.

The point being made however, was not about the funds being directed to NGO’s, it was about the hypocrisy of the Treasurer in condemning the actions of those groups, whilst at the same time funding them.
Posted by spindoc, Monday, 26 March 2012 11:41:35 AM
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It is fine to build dream castles in the clouds; but a mistake to move in and take up permanent residence? Clive Palmer is clearly wealthy enough to live wherever he chooses or follow any conspiracy theory?
I'm not adverse to the occasional conspiracy; given there is always someone in charge, who knows what he or she is doing, what the objective is and precisely how to achieve at it?
Which is arguably more than one can say for most politicians?
A well known Victorian Premier, Sir Edward Henry Bolte, [you can always tell a Victorian, but you can't tell them very much,] used to tell this story.
Some time in the distant future, we will be able to transplant any organ including brains. A foreign Journalist, was being shown around a new brain bank; and noticed that the brains all looked much the same; but, those on the left were much more expensive than those on the right!
How come, he asked.
Well, replied the curator, those on the right are Liberal brains and are completely worn out; therefore much cheaper; whereas, those on the left are Labour brains; and are almost brand new or hardly used at all, hence the much higher price!
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 29 March 2012 5:23:20 PM
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'The point being made however, was not about the funds being directed to NGO’s, it was about the hypocrisy of the Treasurer in condemning the actions of those groups, whilst at the same time funding them.'

Point taken spindoc.

It does seem hypocritical on the face of it. I am not sure if it is worse than John Howard's policy of reducing funds or withdrawing funding (particularly of Aid groups critical of the government) in the event of a parting of ways
Posted by pelican, Friday, 6 April 2012 12:45:03 AM
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