The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > General Discussion > The byproduct of mining

The byproduct of mining

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. All
YES! Yabby that is our country get up think and get rich.
Dongas,those transportable would be snapped up.
In fact at grand a week the houses would stand empty.
If planing let you the next step more permanent trans portables would sell out right.
Rechtub not agreeing with you.
But RM has a habit of being ruder than needed.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 6:44:09 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Demountables ?
Yes Yabby,
problem is to get past bureaucratic idiocy first. what with all the permits & regulations ?
Plus it would reduce the revenue for Governments. Sorry mate, can't do, makes too much sense.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 7:02:39 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Yes well transportables are a great idea, and very popular a well. Problem is, getting the correct approvals.

You see on my mining town land, I could fit many of them, they would all have power and all be tenanted, there is also a nice big lagoon, a great recreational spot, fish, canoe, camp fire, the lot.

The council however has other ideas, one house, one block, even if it's 1000 acres.

Now take a smaller block, in town, of say 30 acres.

Ten years ago you could literally take your pick of them for around $30K, whereas today, those same blocks are fetching $900K, so who can afford them, other than large corps.

We have about eight accommodation houses, from cabins, pubs, through to motels.

You are lucky if you can find a spare room, let alone three or four nights, and rents have gone from a few bucks, to $120 per night, all because of mining.

Even regular house rents have gone from about $80 per week, up to $450 in the past five years, and that just forces the locals out.

It has been suggested there are as many people living in camps as there are regular population.

But accommodation is only one point, what about the strain on non mining businesses, do we just accept that.

After all, the mining tax won't help, as it will go in to consolidated revenue, then who knows where from there.

Then there is the local businesses hoping to ride the boom.

The pubs are flying, the engineering works as well, however many others are being left out of the loop, like hardwares, as most mining companies bring their own supplies.

That's another thing that should be looked at.

Here they are (the miners) taking the spoils from these towns, but not supporting them.

This also should be addressed.

With the mining tax, they (the government) will take from these towns, and give to others, meanwhile, the towns just sit helplessly and watch it happen.

That's just not fair.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 7:15:40 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
*The council however has other ideas,*

and

*meanwhile, the towns just sit helplessly and watch it happen.*

The above two, Rehctub, both from your post. Clearly the towns
are not so helpless, perhaps the council is hopeless.

Plenty of solutions, if those on the council, get off their arse.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 8:59:14 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Rehctub has a point in that, as I posted elsewhere, mining is a special case. Why? Because land owners do not own the minerals in their land. Government owns those rights.
And, as government represents we the people, then we the people own those minersl assets.
Governments,as our elected representatives, have an absolute responsibility to ensure that we get fair value for the sale of our assets.
So, how does a mining company pay for those minerals in the ground, that belong to you and me?
By paying levies and taxes.
Thus any government that fails to get maximum value from the sale of our assets is failing in the same way a real estate agent fails if he or she does not get the highest price possible for a property.
So, I say, full marks to the the government on this particular issue of maximising our return on the sale of our precious mineral assets.
Especially as it's a one shot deal. Whenthey're gone they're gone.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au
Posted by Anthonyve, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:26:32 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Anto, state governments own the mineral rights, they don't impose taxes or levies, rather, they charge royalties.

The proposed mining tax is a federal tax and, it is designed to share the wealth of all states assetts, with all Australians.

Now while this may appear to be fine, what about the othe taxes collected by state governments that are not shared around.

I don't think it is fair to take states assetts, share them around, but keep what's yours.

However, this is not about the mining tax, it's about how on earth can the non mining sectors survive, having to compete with the wages and conditions offered by miners.

And remember one thing, most trades in the mines were trained by the public sector, then simply poached by the miners.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:09:24 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy