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Freedom for all belief?

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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100141065/a-witchcraft-scandal-on-our-doorstep/
The link is to this days English news, a story about the murder of a 15 year old, in the name of Witch craft.
I hope we do not degenerate in to a slanging match pro or con about belief in general.
But in saying freedom of religion did those before us mean any belief.
We hear , even in Parliament, of some creeds who questions must be asked about.
Did our forefathers think only about believers in the big three creeds or all.
Should we look again at things like protections from some laws tax relief and even how a belief is practiced.
I understand the link is to a crime,and it would be a crime in most country's.
But surely some practice in most country's this and other questionable things.
I do not hide my non belief but ask do we truly need to question our protection our silence, and if not are we then guilty of protecting any past acts .
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 3 March 2012 3:13:52 PM
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Belly,
There are some very strange religious and cultural practices carried out by some peoples in our world. example

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/01/01/185768.html

I also understand that in some places in India incest is the norm, not only between kids but between adults and their children.

Africa has lots of strange, to us, cultural activities, as does India and Asia. In some places the consumption of dog/cat meat is a delicasy and even the consumption of human placenta has only been made illegal in the last few years.

The kerosene burning of an unwanted wife and acid attacks is a cultural practice in some places.

Honour killing are reported from time to time and FGM and forced marriages are common.

This is why I believe we should be far more discriminatory in our immigration and refugee programmes.

It is simply not good enough to ignore these practices.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:03:11 AM
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That's just one of those insane/bizzarre things that go on. You can't legislate against stupidity. Unfortunate as it is there's nothing we can do except put these mongrels who use religious belief as a front away for good & throw their ashes on a rubbish dump.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:13:09 AM
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Indi,
Yes, we need strong enforcement of our laws and social standards. But there are other measures we can take as well.

We can identify those groups that will not/can not integrate with our society and stop allowing them to migrate here.

We do not have to put up with,or pay the costs of, alien cultural practices in our society.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:36:25 PM
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Some use religous practices to justify abhorent practices while others use pseudo science to justify their abhorent practices. The state of the human heart is the problem. One day both religous and non religous will give acccount. If not its useless talking about it.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 4 March 2012 2:21:30 PM
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Indy I believe in no God.
But think even if you do not fully understand, your post hovers on bigotry.
Banjo I agree, and runner not quite with your view.
I want to look deeper, this weekend an ABC TV program told how America,s founding fathers nearly baulked at putting freedom of religion in the constitution.
We got our laws from England, a very long time ago.
Even land grants, substantial ones like the Glebe in Sydney have been given.
For the purpose of this debate, I will try to leave my views out,and concede the three major religions Muslim Jewish Christian keep the protections and favors.
I do not wish that, but what about the rest.
The cults, invented science fiction one, the exclusive ones who want nothing to do with us, but burden us with the favors we give.
What would those founding fathers say about American religion today.
Was England's law makers ever aware of pure fraud in some current creeds, is tax and such favors ok to give on our behalf to such.
Is it time to review what a religion is.
And these African and other parts of the world primitive Witch craft followers,are they criminals?
Do they understand even the sanctity of all life.
Can we look truly, at all favors gifts and dispensations we give to any or all belief?
How many are based on purely poor education/wrong education or no education?
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 4 March 2012 2:43:25 PM
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