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See: Loose cable to blame

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Technology/2012/02/24/Loose_cable_to_blame_721871.html

I confess to being rather disappointed.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Friday, 24 February 2012 2:35:29 PM
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Yes Steven, an exciting idea, for a little while
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 24 February 2012 9:31:33 PM
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Can't see why speed can't be measured faster than light. It's only that it's the fastest thing we know but it's still just a number. Surely, with the expanse of the universe and with infinite acceleration in a vacuum you'd get there eventually.

But, I don't have a degree, so what do I know.
Posted by StG, Saturday, 25 February 2012 7:31:06 AM
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StG

The equations of Einsteinian special relativity (SR) say that as a particle speeds up its observed mass becomes ever greater. The effect is miniscule at speeds far below that of the speed of light. A fully loaded airbus A380 travelling at 550 mph would be observed to experience a mass gain about one twentieth the mass of an ant.

However the effect increases dramatically as you approach the speed of light. If you could speed the A380 up so that it was travelling at 580 million mph its mass would double.

There is ample experimental evidence for this. Electrons and protons accelerated to almost the speed of light are seen to gain mass in accordance with the equations of SR.

Trouble is the equations say that at the speed of light the mass of a particle becomes infinite. So the problem is not so much that nothing can travel faster than light as that it is not possible to accelerate something of infinite mass past the speed of light.

It works the other way too. If something is already travelling faster than the speed of light there is no way of decelerating it below the speed of light.

NB: This is a very oversimplified explanation. But it will do to give a rough idea of why neutrinos travelling faster than the speed of light create such a sensation. It would mean that special relativity, which had met every experimental test so far, was not quite right. It would have opened the way to a whole new field of physics.

Incidentally the famous equation:

Energy = mass X (speed of light) squared depends on the equations of SR being correct. Since atomic bombs do explode that would have created an interesting conundrum.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 25 February 2012 8:49:30 AM
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steven/quote..""There is ample experimental/evidence for this.'''

that type of statement..allways worries me

""Electrons and protons..accelerated to almost the speed of light
are seen to gain mass..in accordance with the equations of SR.""

lol
are seen to gain mass?
lol

the same...mass.,...as the mass that limits
the mass..*"to near the speed of light"

think of why...anything over the speed of light..must be
mass/less..[what has increased in the force..
upon*..its same [origonal]..mass

the mass has not increased
only the impetous/force
[that will equal the total of force imput's
in a vacume]

""Trouble is..the equations say
that at the speed of light..the mass of a particle becomes infinite.""

the mass cant increase
but its possable cumalative force...[may]
if other assisting forces were imput[like magnets pushing]

but we miss the big point
infinite..isnt anything to do with mass
just the limitations of mass...

[at aetherial speed...in-finite
without effort or force]

'"So the problem..is not so much
that nothing can travel faster than light
as that it is not possible..to accelerate something of infinite mass past the speed of light.""

excelent
see the limits of flesh mortal
v
the eternal aetherial/eternal

""It works the other way too.
If something is already travelling..*faster than the speed of light there is no way of decelerating it..below the speed of light.""

cause
where could the mass come from?

[a wormhole into a egg shape]

""NB: This is a very oversimplified explanation.""

yeah..me too
ps not visited your link
please more info of where it goes to

anyhow prefer replying
to words allready posted
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 25 February 2012 9:21:12 AM
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OUG wrote:

>>lol
are seen to gain mass?
lol>>

I see I cannot fool you.

You have discerned the truth. All scientists, not just climate scientists, are engaged in a conspiracy to deceive the public. It's part of the plot to install an atheist world government that will enslave humanity.

Here is the inside story.

The families of the CERN scientists who discovered the awful secret that Einstein was a fraud are being held hostage in Guantanamo Bay. They were threatened with torture unless the scientists recanted.

Well done OUG.

I'll know better than to believe I can pull the wool over your eyes again.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 25 February 2012 10:57:12 AM
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