I this morning, more than most find myself lost.
Not because I inhabit the land of Insomnia.
In fact because of the places that takes me.
This thread was always going to be of great interest to me.
I just in a week,have seen my life's mission, the ALP and Union movement, take paths and actions that concern me.
Yet in all truth, no other garage exists to park myself, and I would not look for one.
Unions, heads, some times so remote from members they could be Martians, Warn not to return to Rudd.
Ministers, Sydney Morning Herald/Goggle news, this morning.
Spread anti Rudd, message, yet one story says it all, he will return to leadership.
I am high maintenance ALP/UNION that term says I toe no line, it often, is used by lessor informed members of both, to tell me to think as they do.
Spam words, without meaning are hurled at me, solidarity, a host of pea and thimble words, even the user uses to hide the need to think.
This morning, every morning, Gillards polling is half Rudd's, yet Rudd we are told went because of bad polling?
Gillard , no matter what, can not win an election, yet my party, driven by self interest, stands willing to remind me, the thousands who think like me, we are only a number.
And THEY CONTROL, we follow orders.
Some of Labors best come from Unions, our worst do too, my party is saying NSW is in the past, it will be the day federal Labor hears the voice of its rank and file.
And the day mug under achievers stop filling safe seats as a reward for? failure.
My mind flys to a left wing Scott who is unsuited to sweep the floors of Parliament.

boil it down to basics belly
the rule is like howard did
to do the unpopularistic stuff first
and then the warm fluffy stuff last

toney..or any other liberal
cant win..[they know it]

they are going to cop this backlash at election time
directly into their pocket..[73 billion has now blown out to 75]
soon..when education gets through..it will be near 90 billion..they must find..to wind back the guilard guile..

ruds numbers arnt that high
[his ego would soon send the number lower than juliars]

libs know thats the only way they can win
but as long as juliar does her left weing thing..from now on
she and alp will be just fine

howards numbers were allways low
untill he caught an issue to surf home on

the abo thing should have worked
just like the children overboard..and the war did before

juliar will have a divided house
but that is better than no house

forget my mate kev
he wont be back

lib pole stirrers..
and a weak media...seving gossip../murder/war
in lue of real news..of the good things..the new

not the same old/same old

Looked hard OUG, found nothing I can agree with in that post.
Liberals, without massive change, have the next election in the bag.
Gillard will, within swing or even male Labor voters ,never win an election.
Many see hope but fewer do not know the fact, Labor, far better than painted is gone.
Rudd Shorten, are the hope I am wrong, others exist equally good but will not,yet, have the numbers.
Australians, many, are cynical by nature, find much to like in empty headed shouted rhetoric.
Hence Tony Abbott his fan club Joe in QLD Barnaby Joyce.
Those bring voters.
Issues like boat people[ I blame Abbott as much as Gillard] see tougher actions win 2 to 1 against go easy policy's.
Have no doubt, Labor on this issue, unless it puts it up again and again, to be defeated, will be removed from office.
Good thoughts and deeds to wards these folk are no vote winner.

THE THIRD WAY
At the end of the day (excuse this over used political cliché) I suppose the best leader for Labor would be the one who is willing lead in both opposition and in government. Oppositions don't ever win government, incumbent governments loose. And if the pollsters in Labor are any good they will instinctively know that a Rudd led government in the next election will be toppled. Gillard and Rudd supporters have only one choice and that is to support a third candidate which would assist in neutering Labor's dysfunctionalism, which is almost always demonstrated every other day. Hoist up a new leader, send Rudd to back benches where he belongs, give Gillard deputy PM and any portfolio she wants, replace Swan with someone who knows how to sell economic policy reforms - make new deals with the independents and show Australians a united Labor party is not impossible.

Rainier that has been done and failed.
I have no doubt, not a bit Bill Shorten is the man we thought Rudd was.
Lets look at the leadership of Latham,Crean, Gillard, a troika.
Each shared a scrambled egg idea they could not bring in to practice.
Gillard best served that group, by being able to more easily hide her true self.
Crean got his chance,He rose on the back of his dads good name and the ACTU.
He came as Lathams shadow, wrong man forever wrong.
Gillard took up the mantle,she never should have.
Attempts will be made by her Crean, Fitzgibbon, [Mr China] to install another of their ilk.
Rudd has an advantage, he is liked, his installation however will see both ex leaders lead.
A Doctor Who like trip in to the past, but a new start for politics.
Shorten at some time soon, will be put up as the third way, he will in my view be a great leader.
But now? he risks much, Rudd comes in the arms of mums and dads who do not like Gillard.
You under estimate that advantage
Seems personal dislike of Rudd blinds Labor to its followers wishes, dangerous that.

Does the public want Rudd back? Who says - with perhaps the exception of QLD? The media is revelling in this latest leak and tweet scandal, doing more the promote the idea than reflect what is happening within the party.

Has everyone forgotten how media manipulative, poll driven, and prima donna his behaviour?

The Apology was a positive move and long overdue, but that was party policy and well supported. Even many of the Libs supported it (apart from those who denied the existence of a stolen generation) albeit having to take the party line publicly.