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Need some ideas Julia, here's some

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There are some here are taking people on benefits as a sole breed.
What sort of people are on welfare; mentally impared, disability, sickness, Job injury's, There are a host of reasons for social security, but they are all bundled into the same pool.
Posted by 579, Friday, 27 January 2012 12:53:44 PM
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lets think tank on first peoples rights
[all they really are due is resect]

so julia..a thumb nail guide..to a lost generation

in the embassy welcome area..is a large muril
in the center of that mural..is the cure[lawfull remedy]

there you will see the sun
surrounded by two seats for men
and two for woman[the woman side has the coolamin/stick]

this talking square..is where...julia and tony
make offer to talk to aunti and uncle

to mutually recognise each other
and make treaty...for the solen generation..
and old ones gone..as well as for the unborn

but its futile to try to explain what simple steps
lead to mens and womand path's..to a better future
hint look at the black tracks running between the mountains

one emu[male]
one kangaroo[femail]
neither who can step backwards
once they have reached consensus

then this ritual is repeated globally
with all the first persons...making peace to their own first people

we dont need your money
god gave us our own...[based on a promise of value..
just like pre 66...a pound note was a promise of a pound of silver

only the wikiseedwikigeld...[our own first peoples money]
is a promise to [pay one pound of the seed of the tree of life
[see rev 22:2]

we dont need anything from you
we will issue our own id..to all first person first people
we just require your mother[or adoptive mother]..present you at a womans circle[and the mens circle does the rest]

fe fre bank credit card.id/passport licence etc
[all on a mobile device..[built in..that tracks you..and automaticly fibnd you no matteer which oppressor seks to oppress you]

the phone provides 3 meals per day[at any of austyralias 500 plus peace sites..bed...emercincy help etc[and we apply for that govt cash to build a free peoples peace trail globally

all linked back to the ermbassy
by fibre optiic cable we walked arround the world

[the rainbow serphanmt dreaming]
begins at that gold square

let the healing begin
we got the new vision[end di=vision]
we are all ab-origonal..from somwewhere
Posted by one under god, Friday, 27 January 2012 1:55:56 PM
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Gypsy, where I live part time and work, western qld, there arentruck driving jobs everywhere, but not for MR holders. So I'm not suremif your age is a contributing factor.

Having said that, compliance is becoming a major hadacke for trucking companies, therefore your age may well be the problem.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 27 January 2012 3:12:40 PM
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Gypsy you have my sympathy. I know that doesn't help with the house repayments, but you do have it.

There are so many inequities in our welfare system, but getting then fixed is hard, as most are designed to give more to the bludger, & backed by ACOS.

I find giving rent assistance to those who have not tried to help themselves, but not mortgage assistance to those who have tried, is totally wrong, but how do you change it. It makes no sense to make people loose their homes, after years of payments, then give them dent assistance after they have lost it, & have to rent.

Another I have seen good people suffer from is the loss of a company car, when made redundant. These people can not get support until they are broke. They must use any payout of long service leave, due leave, & other payments to live, before a benefit is available.

When a car has been part of their package, they need to buy a car, particularly in this area with no public transport. However they can't use any of their payout to buy one, that is deemed to be given away.

It seems that many of these requirements are designed to send newly unemployed to the cleaners, so they are totally broke, rather than useful expenditure controls.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 28 January 2012 2:27:20 AM
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Gypsy I found that purely emotional.
Actually challenge the view asking for a return on social security benefits, the dole,is wrong.
At one stage my dad, thinking it an adventure, he was wrong, took the family to rural Queensland, from sound secure jobs.
We could not find work, but took the ones most never wanted, to live.
Carrying toilet tin and rubbish, was the low point but we worked.
I am a social activist ex trade union official and ALP member, we have become too soft on welfare.
Middle class get benefits they do not need or deserve.
Whole generations of SOME family's have never worked and never want to.
Thousands, yes think about that, of false names of non existent people, get the unemployment benefit a CRIME.
Small country firms, pay cash in hand,half wages, in the understanding if the worker complains they will inform the dole office.
I would have worked till death if I Had not found myself working for the wrong man.
ENTITLEMENT TO DOLE? it was set up for those in need, we let it get lost.
Fixing it,fairly, is a duty.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 28 January 2012 4:11:44 AM
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This is one of the most important threads we have discussed here.
A couple of points.
Negative gearing was removed from rental properties some long while
back and it was a disaster. Rental properties just disappeared and
it had to be reintroduced.
When the government forced finacial institutions to lend on both
incomes the effect was to place twice as much money into the housing
industry with the expected effect and it only lined the pockets of the
developers.

The suggestion of a welfare swipe card is a good one and the
introduction of the "Australia Card" (remember that ?) would enable it
to be used as a medicare card, petrol rationing card (ha ha) as well
as obtaining food. The US has a similar scheme with food stamps.
It might make a lot of work for supermarkets etc but in these times
the government could pay for the programming.

With the coming economic restructuring this will become a much more
serious problem. Governments will have a lot less tax income and will
seriously be after welfare cheats.
You will have noticed that there is a lot of discussion on getting
growth into most countries economies. Both the politicains and most
economists still think manipulating finance is the answer.

A few economists have realised that the problem is not money but energy.
Most of those that do realise the connection are looking for the
recipe for the magic pudding.
There isn't one and a new economy will need to be designed around
much lower energy levels.
The new economy will be localised and the manufacturing industry will
have to be reestablished and localised.

So the problem is how to get from where we are now to that new economy ?
Much tighter control of government spending and a redirection of
government interest to food production. The days of proliferate
spending have already gone, it is just that politicians have not
understood that yet.

The end of globalisation is neigh.
So endeth the first lesson.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 28 January 2012 8:44:45 AM
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