You will notice that less than one month after 9/11 fully prepared US forces attacked Afghanistan, one of only 7 nations in the western world without a Rothschild controlled central bank.

A short while after the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq was 'pre-emptively' invaded under the pretext of having Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Iraq was one of six nations left after Afghanistan without a Rothschild controlled central bank.

Its fall left five nations in the world without a Rothschild controlled central bank: Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Cuba and Libya.

We have now crossed Libya off the list, which leaves four:
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1610/903/Terror_Has_Bankrupted_every_Nation_In_The_West,_Nations_Now_Collectively_At_War_For_Enormous_Profits_To_The_Same_Banks_That_BrokeThem..html

US State Department tells bold lies regarding the latest assassination in Iran as it harbors MEK terrorists in Iraq.
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/01/american-backed-terrorists-in-iran.html

While the fifth and latest assassination of an Iranian scientist in broad daylight has Iran pointing the finger at Israel and the United States, with at least the US State Department denying any involvement, there is no evidence yet to determine exactly who was behind the attack.

However, the US State Department complicated what would have otherwise been plausibly denied, by claiming no US involvement "in any kind of act of violence inside Iran." This is a verified lie...

http://theintelhub.com/2012/01/11/unaccountable-private-military-contractor-abuses/

I think you may have answered your own question, Arjay.

>>Pericles the World GDP is about $ 80 trillion.Est of the derivative markets range from $ 150-240 trillion.How can the fake money be worth 2 to 3 times that of the real economy?<<

The answer is, of course, that it can't. The "value" of the derivatives is calculated on a different basis to GDP. It is a bit like the stock exchange. If you add together the total market capitalization of the listed companies, you will get a number that is substantially larger than their aggregate annual turnover.

What happens with derivatives is the same - the actual derivatives have a face value that is then added up to make the trillions you describe. This is an entirely separate number from GDP, and totally unrelated to it in any way whatsoever, being a reflection of underlying capital values, not revenue.

Also, wobbles, the reality is that if the price of oil goes up, the US will have to spend more dollars buying the stuff - the fact that the price is denominated in US dollars does not mean they can avoid paying.

Good post OUG.The Rothschild influence does vary though.China supplies 80% of it's new money via Govt banks.This new alliance of evolving with Russia,China,Iran Pakistan and now it seems Japan and India,could well have the intention of breaking this banking monopoly of the West.They must realise how parasitic it is and want to free themselves once and for all.

If they form a military alliance also, we are stuffed.We have no manufacturing to back up a conventional war and the banksters have robbed us blind.These countries are already buying up our depreciated assets.Maybe they will just continue buy Australia since our pollies don't care.I saw Hu Jin Tao say he will bring in his own NWO.Perhaps Rothschild will be his role model.

Pericles you cannot escape the reality that derivatives are just another form of casino and are destructive to real productive economies.Soros has used them to attack Greece and Italy.

Ah, but that wasn't the question, was it Arjay.

>>Pericles you cannot escape the reality that derivatives are just another form of casino and are destructive to real productive economies<<

You had offered the derivative market as a source of dollars, with which to pay for oil.

Have another go.

Pericles you know that $31 trillion created by the US Fed since 2008,where did it go? Yes most likely the derivative market.We don't know how much they created for Eurpoean debt.

Why is there a shortage of money for the real economy when the counterfeiters are creating so much of it? They don't want the real economy to recover.They use derivatives as leverage to steal the real wealth of property,public assets,shares and retirement pensions.It is happening right now and you continue to deny the reality.

the world of banking/finance..supply
is all about making more cash

so we saw that movie...where orange futures..were first sold
[on a faulse runour]..like the swiss bankers wife just recently]
where you sell stuff..you dont got,,knowing its price is soon to plumit[and you can buy back your promise..for much less than you sold promises you never had..

but the reality is more clever than this
we can leverage...instead of investing limited cash
we can bet it goes up or down...so for many tiny bets..just a few paying off ..makes the fraud worthwhile

so we lend the cash from the bank..to buy share options
if they go up great...we double or tripple our deposited moneies
if we loose we make up the difference[trouble is there is no stop loss
if the gap bnetween youyr cash deposit...and its fast falling value..goes all the way to zero

your assets are obligated to repaying the full debt

see all money..is created by lending...[booked in us dollars?]
anyhow..all money is debt..[ya know what a bill is right?]

a bank BILL..is a promise to pay..[in legal tender]..

the only constituted legal tender
is gold silver coin..[comonwealth constitution..v.115..]

anyhow as all money[except govt grant]
is debt..with intrest on it..

the means..to reduce the value of the debt
needs surpasss the ammount of the debt..

that requries more borrowed
[intrst bearing bonds/bills]
[someone has to default..to repay others ursury[intrst]..on their debt

its a messy house of cards
govt sells bonds..at 2%
to give intrest fre to bankers etc..for free

they need to hide the money into assets
thus securitised/bonded/guarenteed resources prices go up

but due to the leverage..when they intime go down
so will the many clever infesters..who invested..wisely..but only knew the good times...when the prices went up..

not noticing the quality/quantity
has gone down..they can only buy promises
and if them promises were too much in error
you will go broke...as well as them

but they get a govt bailout
you just pay more..for less