Why did you tell me to grow up OUG?

The truth hurts doesn't it?

Give up smoking OUG, because it is far worse for you than most prescription drugs that are used as prescribed.

I'll bet that most prescribed drug deaths are due to severe allergic reactions, or misuse of the drug in question.

Patients are given all the side-effects and possible problems that these drugs could cause before they take them.
They choose to take them anyway, because the good usually outweighs the alternative.

Smokers seem to think that the good feelings they supposedly get from smoking (ie, the addiction) outweigh the deadly chemicals and known diseases they could get from smoking, and yet they still smoke them.

What's the difference? Smoking is a legal drug too.

no the truth dont hurt
its absurd to say so...playing the man not the topic

mr bell takes comfort in talking about smoking
but i exposed them lies all ready..so this isnt about smoking lies

its about them pills...[you know that are part of the usa economy
to the tune of over two and a half trillion each year]

just for australia..we subsidise 1 billion per year
for high blood presure drugs alone...[that have the same affect as placeabo]...and one puff of a joint..does the same thing[widen the arteries[thats why eyes go red]

but its time we looked at the drug merchants..honestly
not just druggies..but all drugs

i have in the past posted the dosage..needed to cure rate
[that is how many need to take a drug..to affect one 'cure']

from memory heart staons...need 80 to take the drug[plus its negative sideaffects]..to obtain one 'cure'

drug companies dont want cures
they want custom..they want your 'sickness to go away...whole you take their pills everday..then for the 'dis-ease'..to return..
if you stop..!

like there is a cure..for baldness
but stop taking it..it all falls out

corperations reap windfall from corperations
take proffit out of medicine[pay ten fold for a cure]

rather than afflict us with this cheap chinese made mede-sin
[seems the drug merchants like the china prices too..

more proffit..plus govt grants..
http://naturalsociety.com/drug-giant-hit-with-1-billion-fine-over-faulty-antipsychotic-risperdal-marketing/

no wonder the medico's get free gifts..from big pharma
and we get side affect that makes our lives worse...[i dont take pills]

i dont visit the docter
http://vactruth.com/2012/01/09/document-shows-merck-paid-doctors/

havnt used the pbs subsidy nor cost a cent...
unlike belly...who ridicules me..cause i dare admit to smoking

but i unlike him..wont be running to some quack/pills
or whining about how much
his love of the tipple
in the end..costs me..

..nor about how my tax
was spent by lie/threat and fear

heck the pbs..is paying..for nicoteen gum
a subsidy on a drug..they couldnt patent

gum merchants been making gum for years
then big pharma takes them over
and all of a sudden selling the poisen..for twenty bucks..a pack?

patches is even more insane
i can buy a hundred bandaids
but put nicoten onto them...lol

how much them SUBSIDISED patches cost us via the pbs
who knows..the more who try to quit..the more it will cost

so lets talk about medisin..that kills
[dope has never killed anyone[ever]

has no lethal; dose rate..[ldr]
doses needed to take to kill

suck on this box of patches
recall they said..ddt was a vitamin

http://www.cracked.com/article_19607_the-6-most-reckless-uses-radioactive-material.html

[you know child proof lighters are causing rsi]..?
but no evidence smoking is causing cancer[the rate of non smokers..is the same as smokers[in other words smoking isnt a factor...just a conveniant scape goat..

Rather than lecturing OUG about his use of pot or otherwise, I think his point is intertwined with the issues of freedom; e.g.the right too be correctly informed.

Not only are Pharmaceutical Companies acting fraudulently, but as stats show with scant disregard for the safety of the public. Not only painkillers alone, should be targeted if your measuring "whether the cure can be worse than the disease". Things that mess with the human immune system for example. Further medical fraud exists in our country in the field of study regarding the link between cannabis and schizophrenia.

A particular scientist (promoted frequently by John Faine on ABC radio), whom is basically pushing a barrow for funding, has been proven time and time incorrect, by much larger oversea's studies disproving the link between cannabis and schizophrenia. Look into it Suzeonline.

From a pure toxicology perspective, "on the scale of toxicity", any of the compounds contained in cannabis feature extremely low. Vitamin A is in fact more toxic.

Is it possible that the low cost positive effects in the area of pain relief derived from low side effect, low toxicity compounds adapted from cannabis could actually benefit society ?. Particularly if it reduces the dependence and tolerance issues and other side effects issues for people whom must use opiates to deal with chronic pain.

As Belly proclaims correctly, even overuse of cannabis can be a bad thing, and this is where understanding comes in. As with tobacco there is an upside and a down side. It is a matter of having a complete understanding this and still having a choice. This we call freedom.

The other side benefit of legalising supervised use of substances is obvious; the elimination of substance related crime over night, and the related health issues and mortality rates, and cost of enforcement associated with the prohibition philosophy.

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I ask, why act, like child like reactionaries when it comes to substances that can provide pleasurable experiences, as well as kill pain, while at the same time condone pharmaceutical companies experimenting upon people by marketing chemicals driven by profits often without adequate testing, that are possibly more harmful, theoretical, and without question more toxic, than anything beneficial that may derived from cannabis.

If it is okay to market nicotine patches ?.

OUG's post does illustrate, (in my political view as a civil libertarian) the benefits of thinking logically instead of reacting to stimulus provided by those whom wish to maintain the status quo for all the wrong reasons.

I admire OUG for standing by his convictions and not going to a Doctor or taking any prescription medications.
Fair enough.
If you think there is some conspiracy to keep us all on prescription medications, then you are doing the right thing by keeping away from them.

It is a well known fact that in Australia we are all living longer and more comfortably because of some of these prescription medications, but living longer is not everyone's cup of tea :)

I have spoken to other 'natural' therapy people who were quite happy to give all these 'chemical' filled prescription drugs a miss ... right up until the time they are diagnosed with a life-threatening or life-changing disease, and they suddenly decide these terrible drugs are ok if they will save or prolong their life!

I am a firm believer that prescription drugs (think Antibiotics, chemotherapy drugs, painkillers and anti-stroke/high blood pressure medications) have done far more good for mankind than evil.

But everyone has a choice...