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Julia's NBN gravy train resembles more a ponzi scheme than infrastructure.

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Csteele,

Considering that newspapers work to a deadline, and do not submit thoroughly researched and peer reviewed articles, the many articles on the NBN, and the constant stream of complaints from labor and Green supporters, the few trifling inaccuracies and sentences that "might be misleading" are hardly an indictment.

Also from your link:

"These errors may well have been considered minor in themselves"

"The Council considered the newspaper should have made greater efforts to get up-to-date customer figures, although the error did not substantially affect the point being made."

Your nitpicking of a few inaccuracies does not undo the fact that vast majority of the information they report is factually correct, and that the NBN is a disaster slowly unravelling.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 8 January 2012 10:36:33 AM
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Oh dear Shadow Minister to accuse me of nitpicking after that post is shameless.

Lol.

You are like the mother of a pair of bank robbers only telling the neighbour about the traffic infringement at the head of the charge sheet. You just should not have done it.

As to Jamie Benaud, the person who lodged the complaint I have no evidence he is a member of either the Greens or Labour. He is however a contributor to Whirlpool;
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1835806

His website can be found here;
http://www.australianimages.com.au/jamie.php
Posted by csteele, Sunday, 8 January 2012 3:06:44 PM
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I am no longer going to feed your paranoia Shadow Minister.
Far more than I have remarked about your apparent fixed and blind opinions.
I am afraid thoughts and opinions are best served with a side dressing of interest in both sides of issues.
Insult away, your posts leave me with no need to return service, you do it for me.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 8 January 2012 3:17:59 PM
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Csteele,

Quite the contrary, you are the person looking at the parking ticket and then claiming they are bank robbers.

None of the errors were significant or detracted from the points being made.

"The Council considered the newspaper should have made greater efforts to get up-to-date customer figures, although the error did not substantially affect the point being made".

The Government had set targets for the initial take up in trial sites and failed. This was the point of the article which was unaffected by the error.

"The Council also considered that describing the ISP connection fee as “up to $140” was unfair and misleading when the range was as wide as $30-$140".

This is just plain petty and given what we're seeing reduced competition in the market through consolidation, requests from NBNCo for increases 5% above inflation for a decade, and cost and time blow out that costs are likely to be higher.

By the time the NBN comes on line, it will be far less technically relevant than it would be if available today.

PS. This is another example of labor government incompetence, and why these upgrades should be left to the private sectors that actually know what they are doing.

http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/free-skype-much-better-than-labors-72m-telehealth-grant-20120107-1pphh.html
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 9 January 2012 5:01:22 AM
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An excellent post Shadow Minister.Our most pressing infrastructure need is good efficient transport but that will not be a good gravy train for Labor or their voracious beaucracies.Labor continues with their criminal waste of our money.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 9 January 2012 5:37:04 AM
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The NBN is a Rolls Royce project. Certainly it will probably be the
ultimate solution and I can't see it ever being obsolete.
Radio solutions are very good but they take up spectrum that is too
valuable to use for other than mobile applications.
It would be criminal to waste it on someone in their bedroom playing
games or watching films or even doctors in their surgery examining
xray files.

However the NBN & the internet is not survival infrastructure.
The money could have been much better spent on duplicating and
electrifying the interstate rail lines.
Projects such as public transport and major water projects are
survival projects and will support our country well into the far
future no matter what gets thrown at us in the future.
How much more important would a campaign to increase the number of
farmers. Until we do something about that we are condemned to live
off other countries left overs.

Not even the very high speed trains are survival infrastructure.
They are a luxury that now cannot be afforded. Much more productive
to put NBN size funds into rebuilding the important infrastructure
such as railways and interstate shipping & ports.

So wake up and realise that the internet is a toy for the boys and girls.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 9 January 2012 8:14:29 AM
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