why are climate scientists singled out
cause there is no such thing

http://www.google.com/search?q='climate+scientist'+origen+first+use

the nearest i could find was the first link
'the histry of climate science'

told ya they were making it up as they went
http://www.livescience.com/1292-history-climate-change-science.html

some of the 'mile stones'
...'are just pure bull shhhhh it'

appart from al gfore
who certifies a climate scientist
[not climatologist or other such spin name

specificly
noting not one ;climate scientist'

but plenty of accoutants and other such frauds
prepared to be peers
to a science that dont egsist./..

but in putting together bits..to spin a histry
bingo its payday

Hi under one god,
Please see my response to hasbeen.
Your comment reinforces both what I explained there and the proposition laid out in the link at the head of the thread.
Cheers,
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

I hope you weren't referring to me Belly, when you said, "This subject still attracts the ones we must throw back".

From my point of reference , that being my age Hasbeen, I can safely say that climate change is already "evident", in my lifetime so far. "Whether I live to see more of it", or not, is not part of my consideration when making this observation.

On Anthonyve's point about Occam's Razor, it seems to me, that if it is still possible, to do something about the changing climate, then it simply makes more sense to do something, than not.

As to the pace of change or degree of warming etc that seems to be the main point of conjecture in climate discussions, this still remains unknown, and into the space provided by this, steps the skeptics and reverse conspiracy theorists.

I am just stating "that in my life's experience, the climate is changing". A conclusion made from experience, not fuelled by skeptics or befuddled by science. A simple observation.

Indeed the changing climate is only one of the problems. The destruction to species and habitat caused by human habitation is another matter altogether, of much worse proportion that we also deny and dither over ; about what it is that we should do in some sort of co-ordinated way via agreements, about these self inflicted man made calamities.

Time will tell Hasbeen no doubt, but time also runs out.

Sounds like self deception to me T2.

Have any of you lot of ever read any of the climate gate 2.0 emails? If you haven't you are wasting every ones time chattering from a fools position.

Hi Hasbeen,
You base your entire argument on a bunch of emails, in the face of a vast amount of measurable, tangible evidence and you accuse others of foolishness.
Oh dear!
As I said earlier, a clear case of managed reasoning growing out of cognitive dissonance, coupled with an inability to manage delayed gratification.
But, if it makes you feel better...
Cheers,
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

Anthony,

You have enjoyed so many breakthroughs and successes at Copenhagen, Cancun and Durban. Qatar should likewise be yet another stunning breakthrough, even though any reviews have been deferred until 2015 and the plan for any action deferred until 2020. It seems the more you try and the more you claim success, the further out your goals become, funny that is it not?

Some of us might wonder just how much success you can handle and why you are not delighted with the progress you have made?

Instead you worry your little head about the emotional well being of us poor losers, how thoughtful of you.

You are absolutely right of course; it is very difficult and emotionally stressful to position oneself as a skeptic. Given that we have decided not to buy and surrounded ourselves with utter ambivalence.

We do look at the warmers like you and say to ourselves “my god, I wish I were as reconciled and contented with my decisions as they are with theirs”.

It’s also interesting how you mangle our language to make your assertions. Having taken no position other than “we don’t believe a word of the emotive bull dust you are trying to sell us”, we are informed that skepticism is now a “position” that is based upon “curious reasoning” and requires an “explanation”.

Remember number one rule of sales, if the customer won’t buy, it is not their fault, it’s YOURS!

We all recognize your reflective angst of course and you do seem to be well out of your depth on this forum however, you do provide much entertainment.

Many thanks.