LF,

The pacific solution worked, and virtually no one believes that the turning back of the boats was anything but a minor part.

If you had any critical faculties, then why in 2008, 5 years after the last boat was turned around, did the removal of TPVs and the closing of Nauru cause such a dramatic upswing in boats.

You have continually failed to address this point as it renders your argument useless.

The Pacific solution should be restored, as any other option will continue the carnage.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/malaysia-plan-still-possible-says-ruddock-20111220-1p421.html
Let us please, see with open eyes, these words in the link from the man who crafted and bought to life the Pacific solution.
Then those of the last Foreign Minister in Howard's government.
The words of Liberals quoted in this link.
Saying HIGH COURT HAS MADE NEHRU no longer the answer.
Look at the present, stone Labor for past sins if you wish.
Can you rebut my charge?
NEGATIVE MAN is unconcerned at these deaths,if not that not concerned enough to put his flogging stick away and sit and talk.
What basis has put us here,how do we talk about not the deaths.
Not the increasing arrivals.
Not the victory for the minority greens.
Average Aussie rightly has had a gutful.
My often defense all politicians are not useless is looking weak.
As NEGATIVE MAN , no one else,is refusing to even sit and talk.
Conservative Australians.
This man is no John Howard, no statesman, no leader.
If only, Santa like all good transport contractors needed a back load.
He could give this country a very real Christmas Gift, taking Gillard and NEGATIVE MAN HOME WITH HIM AS A BACK LOAD.

Catcus you ask

'Runner!...are you up\set again at us environmentalists:)?....shame on you:).

Are you so gullible to believe that the Greens really care about the environment? Their is a difference between worshipping the earth and taking care of it.

Belly,

Juliar said NO to off shore processing. Her government cannot get any legislation through as her partners in government have abandoned her.

Juliar has a compromise on the table that she could get off shore processing tomorrow if she so chose. But Juliar is so NEGATIVE that she would rather do nothing than accept the proven solution the coalition has to offer.

Juliar's offer has not changed by one comma, and her request for talks is hollow, as Chris Bowen who advocated accepting the coalition's offer clearly has no authority to negotiate a compromise. Morrison and Bowen talking can only result in both sides stating their position and no more. In your terms Belly, this would be like trying to negotiate an EBA by having a shop steward and a HR manager sitting down to talk.

Any serious offer of talks would involve direct talks between Abbott and Juliar, as clearly only they have the authority to compromise.

Dear Belly,

Do yourself a favour and save your breath.
Christmas is just around the corner, it's
cricket season afterall, tennis is coming up,
there's plenty of other things to argue about.

Best to remember that it's pointless trying to
convince some people - to actually buy into
silly notions like facts and reason.

Politics to some, it seems to me, for years or
all too ling has been concerned with right or
left instead of right or wrong.

Shadow Minister, I await STILL your reply to my one.
The one I answered and indeed Challenged your disgusting view I had DELIBERATELY LIED.
Sir, in your defense, I have re read both my post and yours following.
A chance exists, you are claiming you are THE SHADOW MINISTER in this matter.
If that is true.
My defense is clear HANSARD!
It records at least five times the charge has been leveled in the house.
NOT ONCE has the shadow minister/you? denied it.
I rest easy, know this, your diatribes here, your party's, are in this matter a rock around boths necks.
On this matter the sea you sail on is getting rough.
As little truth exists in you rehashing the past as runners here.
Dispute resolution demands first an agreement to talk.
NEGATIVE MAN is under mining him self, creaks and indeed groans are audible behind his back.
As 2012 progresses even you, will under stand it was this issue that gave first voice to internal questioning of his ability to lead a Nation.