I, for one, would not mourn the disintegration of the Greens.

StevenIMeyer if you and I wanted to craft a poll, here in OLO about the greens it would be no easy task.
First problem what is the question how to put it.
Those two points can make the outcome go one way or the other.
Second, IMPOSSIBLE! but we would ask every one to not let their feelings about the greens color the way they answer.
Then? no easy task,see online, greens are over represented , as opposed to in the whole community.
Say the question was one of these.
Do you think the greens have peaked.
Have the greens a long term future.
Would you ever vote green.
All, in fact any question would be bound to see some answers based on private feelings.

This much I am sure of, if after any of those polls, we started three threads.
One Greens public acts and statements
Two the back ground of greens members.
And three policy's of the greens.
Then ran our poll again.
Greens votes here would cave in.
I think with certainty many do not understand the intentions and nature of the party they support.

The greens are the party with lofty ideals with no regard for consequences.

Shadow Minister wrote:

>>The greens are the party with lofty ideals with no regard for consequences.>>

What on Earth does that mean?

If you have no concern for the consequences of your ideals they can hardly be considered "lofty."

Well yes Steven but both points are true.
They, and some of them are, THINK they are looking after the planet.
But every single policy's they have can be challenged by the effects it has on us all.
Not proud of this,I always warn a great difference exists from one union to another.
My workplace enemy union,funds in part the greens, pushes the wheel barrow for them, gives them a platform.
And in my view,is harming both the union movement, because it is in practice a thugs and mugs criminal union.
And because it flakes off ALP support to drive militant agendas.
I note I carry the biggest load in countering the greens here.
But in truth both party's must understand,Australians do not want minority's forcing policy's they intensely dislike down our throats.
Greens are not a conservation party but extremist and radical.

stevenlmeyer,

"If you have no concern for the consequences of your ideals they can hardly be considered "lofty.""

Got it in one. Their policies can best be described as aspirational goals. The Greens have yet to actually cost their policies, probably deliberately, as this would show that they are actually impossible.