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Boys need a father, but girls not so much

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*Pelican*

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Yes, some well considered comments i.m.o. *Peli* though I hope you make room for alternative couples. In one of my darkest hours, it was the plutonic Luv of HomoSexuals and BiSexuals who nurtured me, not my biological parents.

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*Diver Dan*

" ... Be wary! The secondary edge of the same sword stalks the victim into adulthood, with a vicious determination ... "

Yes thank you *Diver* it is very true. As a child I used to pray that I would never become like my biological father. However, to my horror, I discovered that whilst not in exactly the same way, that I too was afflicted with an abnormal pathology.

However, I have never hurt anyone (or myself for that matter) except at school where I would fight if antagonised.

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Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 4:56:16 AM

" ... However, if you're interfering between a child and their father, I have nothing but contempt for you. The fact that you had a disturbed upbringing is no reason to inflict the same thing on some other person's child. ... "

What are you talking about you moron? Do you even know? My wife and step daughter are free and in Love able to leave me anytime. They stay because they want to and we are very happy, even at times of trial. If I were to betray their Luv and trust then again, my wife is free to exercise who right to leave and shut me out. As indeed, I am not legally responsible. However, that which I give is UnConditional, and I will not Yin Yang from Luv to Hate if spurned.

No, some biological parents are filth, and do not deserve any rights. So, by all means you be contemptuous of me. I like that. HaHaHa

I'll tell you what I did to the maggot:

1. My wife divorced the biological father
2. She took sole custody of her child on grounds of abuse and neglect.
3. She created a birth certificate as sole parent post divorce.
4. We moved to Australia.
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 5:26:45 PM
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DreamOn.

…Post-child abuse residual, exhibits as resentment, and is inevitably self-destructive. The “afflicted” need to action self-analysis, to identify any hidden motives during the planning stages of revenge, lest the wrong target be attacked, and “you” become the victim of the double-edged sword of child abuse.

…Once, awhile back, I worked with a Polish Jew (John). John (as the youngest) was picked-out from the line of his family, and forced to witness the shooting death of his family, machine gunned by a German patrol during the German occupation of Poland. He was around ten year old, by his account.

...John was a mental catastrophe: During the days work, we were as careful as possible not to pass-by any location advertising a German theme, such as the “Germania” club, in our local area.
It was incomprehensible to John, how Germans were accepted into Australia after performing such acts of brutality. John was not open to any debate that exempted many Germans who were not party to that brutality at all, and that these were crimes of the “State”; or any other argument which may condescend his total “hatred” of all Germans, and anything German. His hatred was pathological. John did not have a “life”, he was completely consumed by a hatred which he self-justified, but was actually the secondary strike of the double-edged sword of abuse.

…All abuse comes “gift wrapped” in revenge. It is the effect of the “constellating complexes” referred to by Karl Yung. Funny thing the human mind, it demands justice! Read Karl Yung, you will find his theories helpful I am sure. Oh, and I advise you not to “drink”; drinking is not helpful when complexes are unwinding, it is a sure way to end in unexpected trouble. I am not “Dorothy Dix”, but maybe the above will help the focus.
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 8:45:10 PM
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Dream on, it's obvious you're "afflicted with an abnormal pathology". What a shame you've managed to find a victim to inflict it on. That poor child - not a decent adult in her life.

Diver dan, wise words.
Posted by Antiseptic, Thursday, 1 December 2011 3:00:25 AM
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DremOn:

...Carl Jung, is the correct spelling ( I am sure you would be aware of the man, but his reputation for practical psychoanalysis is legendry) : Fortunately I am not alone, and amongst the many great men that could not (and cannot) spell. It’s too late now (sniff), the secret art has taken wings into eternity, and I am left in hope that, if I score that “cream” job as scribe for St Peter at the “Golden Gate”, he fits me out with a computer with spellcheck...otherwise...we may allow access to heaven of those who lost control of their "constelating complexes"!

...Google-up Carl Jung, for a selection of live interviews. I particularly relish the “We (humans) are the evil”!

Antiseptic:

I am waffling-on here hoping not to be observed!

...Here is a “case in point” highlighting the illogical nature of English spelling; the verb to “hop”. We can’t be “hoping” along, but we may be hop(p)ing along: What a difference a “P” makes! (ho, ho), a "pee" is very practical, but a "pea" is not.

...Those with spelling difficulties soon learn to identify "Them what is born to rule" amongst us who, in addition, often project themselves as perfect spellers as well, I have noticed!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 1 December 2011 7:47:01 AM
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*Diver Dan*

1. As I am fond to "play hard ball" on more than one issue and in reference to more than one individual I think that it is only fair and reasonable that I subject myself to a high level of scrutiny also. I note further in that regard that my life in more ways than one is subjected to an "on going process of review" and for me now that has been welcomed into 2nd nature.

2. For my detractors also, well may you say something like, " ... Well regarding *DreamOn* - clearly a case of delusions of grandeur & a general lack of refrain. ... "

(Incidentally, that doesn't extend to those matters of patriotism that go beyond the written law)

I concede that there is some truth in that but perhaps at times:

" ... Better the delusions that exalt. ... "
Marcus, Ranger, Babylon5

3. Re:Yung, yes, I studied something of him in my religious youth, and saw more than once the long feature film on his life. I also seem to recall from one forum that *Yung* also had to confron his "inner demons" during bouts of descent into the pit of psychosis, though I know not the truth of it.

4. *Saint Peter* you say .. mmmm .. indeed there are times in my musing that I imagine some of you drawing close to me, in my aspirations to see those about me go beyond the outer garment in outreach to those things that unite us all, as opposed to those things which divide us.

5. Booze? I have never been a drinker, though I do like a bit. 3 beers and I'm baked,4 and I feel sick. Curiously, a favourite scotch on the rocks actually turns off my angry hot spot which is invariably a welcome relief, though seriously, no need for concerns about comorbidity on that one, as my system simply does not tolerate excess alcohol leaving me unable to be an alcoholic even if I wanted to.
Posted by DreamOn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 1:18:40 PM
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*AntiSeptic*

I thought that may get a rise from you. HaHaHa but, clearly, your incoherent and baseless babble appears to be in part because of the grief of loss. At least, I suspect that having previously invested the time in the past to read some of your writings on matters pertaining to parental rights and responsibilities. However, please do feel free to correct me on that one as I concede that I do not know for certain.

Re: The Family Court, I wasn't certain re: your last comments so I ducked over to the Family Court W.A. and sure enough, there are plenty of judgments available for reading, though admittedly they have been stripped of personal particulars.

Why not point us to a case which illicits your point?

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No, I was very happy with my Step Father thank you very much and it was a mistake to let my biological father back into my life.

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As for my BeLoved, well, she was a *Child Bride* and then dumped and deserted by an unfaithful and neglectful man. He was off the scene for more than a decade before my arrival. I merely stitched up the formalities of the law as best I could (baring in mind the additional complexities which comes with of a foreign jurisdiction and also without resorting to "Thank You Money" which made the whole process much longer than it could have otherwise have been.)

Actually, she has a very fiery independent Soul i.m.o. and her friends and family were most surprised when she partnered again, as for many years after woulds she had little interest ..

And, for nigh on 8 months or more we lived "Luv in the Dark," as the Indos say and there were many comings and going before all was made clear and I was invited to also participate in the life of my Step Daughter.
Posted by DreamOn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 1:53:09 PM
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