Solar batteries for houses on the grid, are maintenance free and 10 yr life. You permanently connect the batteries to solar and electric charger. The old batteries for off grid were 2 volt batteries and needed regular maintenance mainly for water top up. The water boiled off because of irregular charging, and too quickly charged.

The speed of light was said to be the ultimate. Perpetual motion will be the next to fall. You can-not get out more than you put in, You can actually. Self powered motors, friction generators,
All of this alt energy, has been the ideal hobby for the individual household. Solar powered heater, by running hot water through coils, backed by a fan. This has opened a whole new tin of spaghetti.

The more you take notice of the supposed highly educated fraternity, the worse light they shed. They come out of university , the highest education in the land , and yet have got no idea of general knowledge.
It is like blaming scientists for not being able to give a straight answer on climate change. NASA has all the measuring instruments, and global surveillance machines., and can only gives probabilities of the circumstances if left unchecked. It is best to er on the side of caution, as the alternative can become non reversible.

There is stand by power savers being handed out. You can have 4 max; and all it costs is to sign the carbon RECS for them.[ in vic]

Climate discussion going around in circles. C02 verse Carbon. Oil and coal. Is Carbon a carsnogene, it is on toast. I have never seen so much time wasted on the same subject. NASA says the climate certainly is changing, but they cannot say for how long. No one can. C02 in the atmosphere has never been so high. The sea is releasing co2 with the warming of one degree celsius. The cycle may not be able to be stopped.

There is confusion about c02 and carbon, some are stating c02 as the only ingredient in the climate change debate. We breath out we expel c02 You can not burn fossil fuel without creating co2 and carbon. The tax is for carbon emmittions, the co2 gets off, no charge. That is why i ask is carbon a cancer causing agent. The cases of cancer have continued to rise, along with pollution