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Be ware of Greeks carrying Euros

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I am so sick of Greece, Greek debt, the EU & the Euro crisis, in fact the whole catastrophe.
Hasbeen,
When Whitlam let them take most of the australian pension over there was when the root began for both Greece & Australia. We now can't get a decent pension because of the rorts that went on then.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 5 November 2011 9:47:15 AM
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Dear Hasbeen,

It's not the Greeks but world greed that is the
problem. I'm sure the Greeks have their fair share -
but they're not alone. It all started in a place
called Wall Street. And that's where it should end.
If they ever wake up to themselves.

Dear Individual,

Australia has agreements with a number of countries to share
responsibility for social security coverage not only with
Greece:

United Kingdom, United States of America, Austria, Chile,
Czech Republic, Germany, Italy, The Former Yugoslav Republic
of Macedonia, Poland, Spain, Belgium, Croatia, Denmark, Greece,
Japan, Malta, New Zealand, Portugal, Switzerland, Canada,
Cypress, Finland, Republic of Ireland, Republic of Korea,
The Netherlands, Norway, and Slovenia.

Negotiations are under way with a number of other countries.
These arrangements are reciprocal and in no way affects your
pension.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 5 November 2011 2:08:00 PM
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Australia has agreements with a number of countries
Lexi,
I know & I also know the Australia to Greece pension drain was the largest in history.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 5 November 2011 2:54:41 PM
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Dear Individual,

Your statement of "the Australia to Greece pension drain
was the largest in history," doesn't explain anything.
Kindly provide us with specifics, evidence, and the reasons
why? I'm not trying to be contentious. Simply that this is
not something that I'm familiar with.
I would have thought that people who have lived and worked
in this country and paid taxes are entitled to a pension
commensurate with their tax contribution. We know Australians
who've worked in the US and are now getting an Australian
pension partially subsidised by an American pension.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 5 November 2011 3:42:41 PM
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This thread was meant to be a light hearted bit of fun, but as it has been taken seriously by our lefties, here's a few facts.

A country can't make payment of income tax effectively optional, & not have the government short of money.

You can't employ 4 or 5 times the number of public servants required, just to avoid huge unemployment, without straining the budget.

You can't pay your public servants twice what they would be worth, if they actually did something, without even more strain.

You can't retire all those public employed folk so young they have yet to start to shave, without even more strain.

You can't pay the retirement pension to everyone at a similarly young age, without even more strain.

You can't borrow most of the money to pay for the above for years, without the stuff finally hitting the fan.

What do you do, when it hits the fan, riot of course, what else would you do?

And no the bl00dy banks did not make them do it, in fact they thought they deserved it.

Well I think they deserve what they are getting.

Please note, the UK are all ready getting to something near the Greeks in excess public employees, as are the French, & we are catching up damn fast.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 5 November 2011 3:46:54 PM
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Individuals statement is xenophobic.
It also blames events of 1972 to 1975 for?
Not quite sure.
Only because Indy puts his views out there, VERY often with lines insulting others.
I feel free to say, no person with average understanding, should ever look to Indy , on any subject.
For reasoned comment.
The thread is about the GFC and Greece.
Or have I miss lead myself?
Indy, takes the flogging stick?
To governments long gone, but why, no one thinks Australian debt is even near the rest of the developed world.
Name a country in less debt than us, as percentage of annual income.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 5 November 2011 3:56:09 PM
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