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Return of Kevin Rudd would be beneficial

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Dear rehctub,

I don't hate anyone.

We're all thrown cruve balls in the form of
people and situations we're tempted to judge.
How otherwise would we grow but by growing
through such challenges. However, hating anyone
would poison me more than them.

And hating Liberals? How on earth
could I hate someone simply because of politics?
Also I come from a Liberal voting family.

I watched Malcolm Turnbull on "Q and A," last night.
I certainly admire him. Peter Reith was on as well.
As was Ray Martin. All in all it was an interesting
panel. Good questions from the viewers.

I can't say who I will vote for at the next elec tion.
It all depends on who the party leaders are and
what policies they have.

Interesting times ahead.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:14:01 AM
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cont'd ...

I need to get glasses.
I keep making typos.
My apologies. The sentence should read -
"We're all thrown curve balls..."
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:16:26 AM
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As Lexi literates, nothing good is born of hatred Rehctub. I'm sure you also agree with this principle.

Not trusting Abbott however, is a different thing to hating Abbott. And the concern for me is, that his arrogance and the avarice of his front bench displayed in opposition could potentially become autocracy in Government.

Pelican refers to Occupy protesters and their point. They represent thin edge of the wedge of public discontent and mistrust about "the Big end of Town". I agree with all of Pelicans thoughts. So saying that "low skilled workers are overpaid, "in our society" is at best counter productive and worst anti social to me Rechtub. Right wing rhetoric.

Citing global markets as responsible, carries even less anti-cedence in the case for lowering the living standards of your lowest paid citizens, in order that people up the ladder receive the benefits of a countries wealth, when you can afford "not" to do that.

Although I still empathise about the plight of small business Rehctub, I think that global competitiveness and it's advantages are vastly overstated in our case, and are the focus of a planned Corporate future for our country.

And whilst on the subject of the countries wealth

One example is Gold. Gold prices have been soaring for years in a weak global economy. We own the gold but have not shared in the increasing dividends for our gold. It does not belong to the people whom are digging it up for us. It is our Gold. Surely we should share in the massive increasing profits for "our" gold by including it in the Mining tax, instead of lowering the living standards of our lowest paid workers. Hows that for a sensible and socially responsible economic measure Rehctub ?. The Greens have this in their policy. Belly, I'm getting this drifting feeling again.
Posted by thinker 2, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 8:35:27 PM
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* We own the gold but have not shared in the increasing dividends for our gold.*

You remain confused, Thinker 2, but that is not unusual.

FYI, according to our constitution States own resources, so unless
you live in a State with lots of gold, you have no claim to it.
Unless of course you suddenly think that our constitution is
invalid.

But of course you still benefit, despite all that. Mining companies
employ people, who pay huge amounts of tax. Those people spend, employing more people,
paying more tax. Mining companies pay royalties to states, they
pay income tax, payroll tax, fuel tax, stamp duty and all the myriad
of other taxes levied.

In fact without the miners, you would be living in a banana republic, aware of it or not.

It seems to me that greed is your problem, Thinker 2. You always
seem to want more, without actually working for it.

Sorry, but life ain't that simple. Try a lottery ticket.
Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:52:25 PM
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The theme of the thread, Left behind in our usual way, has impacts.
Any observation of the latest polls show a slight lift in the ALPs vote.
Not taken from Liberals but the Greens.
I find this both good, and informative.
Greens seem intent on considering my concerns about them bias/bigotry/based on no real understanding.
Maybe Rudd's impending challenge is the reason.
Any thing that separates in voters minds any links to greens and Labor is good.
So yes a return would be good.
Shorten first but if he will not run some one must.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 4:13:28 AM
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Rehctub here.
So Pelican, T2 and anyone else out there who either disagrees with my view or even hates it, please answer one simple question.

Do you think, in tough times like we are in now, that the increased cost of living burdens should be passed on to employers, or, should they be the responsibility of the government.?

Now before you answer that, just remember, we shoukd have heaps of money in reserve given the mining boom we are experiencing right now. It's just that all this, and some has been wasted. Not by me, not by you, but this government.

I would also like you to take into account just how tough most businesses are doing right now.

I will accept no reply as an admission that I am right.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 5:26:06 AM
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