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Can we transcend tribalism?
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Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 8:32:28 AM
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pell's quote..""there always seems to be a rush
to localism..with good reason in most cases."" isee idealy...many small fish with small spheres..of lacal influence rather than a one world govt..that orders laws/bailouts..from the top down in the main..cause these few big fish.. will easilly be swayed by big business..to do big busdiness adgendas whereas locally..a big business.. will only have a small field of affect..[locally..not globally] we cant trancent tribaliosm so lets embrace it have unversal laws..of rergulations over big business a tax on al transaction..that distributes income locally [to an elected govt..who spernds it locally] to expect one world govt to serve its people not legal incorperated 'person's'..[big business] is too tempting for those who would be masters of the universe thus im for tribalism..[or rather localism] where even the least..is equal to the most or loose funding.. [all complaint must be heard] and remied locally what was that buzz word of the 70's DECENTRALISATION..! the true decentralisation of powers Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 8:57:36 AM
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Tribalism is not as you suggest, necessarily a dirty word. In Australia I am glad to see a consumer push for localism in purchasing decisions around buying aussie goods, the rise of farmgate businesses and local markets. Food security and biosecurity is enhanced by these activities. Tribalism is after all about communities with shared values. However, at it's worst manifestation, tribalism can also skew one's perceptions about others and then how one goes on to treat those who may not fit with the tribal values or order. This sometimes goes beyond simple aspects of defence from invasion, but to unsupportable interference in the wellbeing of others whether it be through unfair trade arrangements or military intervention. That is the only global governance that interests me - freedom from wars and the ability of nations make decisions in the interests of their constituents; as opposed to an omnipotent world government which is an entirely different matter. Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 11:10:25 AM
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Great a very clear and concise analysis of our greatest challenge i hope you won't mind if i include your article in my next email to the Australian human rights commission as they don't know .That junkies suffer any discrimination.Well being banned from political office would seem the worst abuse of human rights i can imagine .But we are only junkies we would only vote for compassionate people if we got a vote .People who would free us from spreading the drug problem by having to deal drugs, and we would vote to rid D.o.C.S.of the 85 % of single [homosexual] people who make hateful decisions about giving away our children ,like we are animals but the middle class are preprepared to pay top dollar for our kids .So we get them stolen from us by a corrupt system that profits from our misery .WELL WHEN YOU ARE PUNISHED FOR JUST EXISTING.and continually traumatized is it any wonder no one wants to get off drugs the pain of our reality is unbearable and this is all by design of the D.E.A. THE FOREIGN POWER THAT DICTATES TO OUR SPINELESS POLITICIANS AND POLICE just what atrocities they will inflict on those with the illness of addiction next election vote for Jesus and Christian living foundation and we might try bout honest government for a change
Posted by motorcyclemessiah, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 12:54:50 AM
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hi motercycle messiah
i used to be in your tribe..[bikie] the 1%...i also am a life member of the other tribe[hemp] what you have to say on behalf of your tribe..is true so i fought the laws in the courts...[you know 20 out of 21 plead guilty..the first time the go to court]...thus cops have it only too easy they search on suspition treat a plant..[only god can make grow]..as a legal fungable [fungable is a tradable 'commodity''..instead of the rightfull lawfull 'fixture'..a plant in the ground is] search out the meaning of fixture/fungable lawyers know that..yet NEVER say that in court there is many reasons for this the lawyer tribe..becomes judges lawyers become polititions[over half were or still are of the lawyer tribe] other lawyers become public servants[another tribe] anyhow..the lawyers make the laws sign the treaties and even claim god given right..[yet read that hioly law book genesis 1;29 Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 7:57:51 AM
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A political analyst says that the Zionist regime is pushing a new law which would classify Jews as a separate race with links to the Palestine land - justifying their 'expulsion' of Palestinians.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Un1iQJPjM An exclusive interview with Bruce Katz, co-president of the Palestinian & Jewish Unity (PAJU) A political analyst says that the Zionist regime is pushing a new law which would classify Jews as a separate race with links to the Palestine land - justifying their 'expulsion' of Palestinians. http://chimpplanet.blogspot.com/2011/11/racist-white-european-jews-in-israel.html The irony is that Israel-born Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu came from a Jewish Polish family with the last name of Mileikowsky, which his grandfather changed to Netanyahu. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/08/warmongers-eager-for-more-blood-letting/ http://disquietreservations.blogspot.com/2011/11/from-911-to-world-war-iiitowards_08.html heck why bother http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD8ZaxAHmS0&feature=channel_video_title tribalism...when one tribe wants to make their way global we all go global..or get picked off one by one heck read the news http://whatreallyhappened.com/ israel beating the drums of armogeddon again Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 8:04:50 AM
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The world is too big possibly for one big tribe where universal consensus on anything would be impossible not only unwieldy. This is why in some spheres there always seems to be a rush to localism with good reason in most cases.
The fact is the human race is one big tribe and we are all brothers and sisters arising from the same African origins. It is only culture, size and historical distance that prevents greater uniformity or consensus. Even within 'tribes' there is tribalism which is reflected best by the proliferation of religious sects originating from the same core religion such as Islam and Christianity; or variations within ideologies.
Tribalism is certainly a very complex psychology with origins in the quest for survival.
There was an interesting quote which took my fancy while watching the Poet's Guide to Britain- Matthew Arnold's poem 'Dover Beach'.
"Resolve to be thyself: and know that he who finds himself, loses his misery."
Perhaps Arnold offers us the answer in self-awareness, confidence and acceptance.