*Australia needs another airline on every internal route.
Open them up let the best win.*

Belly, last time I checked, Virgin could fly anywhere they wanted.
But no airline will fly routes which are not profitable or doesent
have the numbers. Then of course you could fly Tiger Airways,
or Jetstar, or a few of the smaller airlines.

One of the disputed points in all this is that the Qantas pilots
union wants to determine how much Jetstar pilots should be paid.
Well Jetstar is based in Singapore and flies all over Asia. That
is frankly none of their business.

Of course I protest about union thuggery. Gawd, we got some long
faces from the ACTU thugs, when for once they got it back. So what
if Qantas planned for the possibility? Every good CEO has plan A,B,C and
D, as potential strategies.

Joyce is there to turn the airline around, despite the unions and
Govt being against him. He only gets his bonus if he can do so,
no mean challenge. For the last few years, Qantas has largely
existed for the benefit of employees and the convenience of passengers.
Never mind the huge numbers of mums and dads who
believed the spin, when they paid their money to the Govt. They
have been screwed all the way. If Joyce can change that, he's
worth every penny. Luckily I knew about all this and did not touch
Qantas shares with a barge pole, when it came to my super fund.
But I do have some empathy for those who got done over by the
system. Lots of those people don't earn an airline pilots wage.

Baggage handler starter $ 26,255 10 to 19 yrs exp $45,458
Flight attendant $ 30,309 to $ 67,936 on exp
Airline pilot [Jet] copilot flight engineer. $ 42,807 to $ 173,020

No Yabby, they're really not; Joyce was perfectly free to act in many other ways, but chose to extort instead.
And Joyce sabotaging his own company just to make a stand-off with them- rather than turn back his pay rise no less- demonstrates he does NOT care about the company at all, as he is quite happy to endanger it for his own personal interests.

And Rehctub you are not answering the question;
How does Qantas "go offshore"?
Do they immediately terminate their services around Australia, and only offer them in some other country?

If so, another airline will take their place, and we will have all the workers ready to work for them instead.

We definitely don't need Qantas, they need us (to be gullible and not shop for better deals).
We only think we need them because we are so used to catching Qantas that we are afraid of giving other airlines a shot (except me).

And I will be lending an ear to any party that advocates creating a new national airline, or re-nationalizing Qantas and having Joyce thrown out.

*Joyce was perfectly free to act in many other ways*

Err Hazza, a gun was put to his head. Agree to our terms or keep
losing 15 million bucks a week. Which would you have chosen?

As to his salary, its neither here nor there. Firstly he'll only
get his bonus, if he can turn the airline around, which would be
a welcome breath of fresh air for mum and dad shareholders who
believed the spin. Secondly, even if Joyce worked for nothing,
it would work out to around 2$ per employee per week. Do you really
think that the 3 unions would have been convinced to go back to
work for 2 bucks a week extra?

The decisions by qantas and others will have to be looked into. I do not think joice could have come up with that on his own.
Other channels were there, why so extreme, i believe he had help.

579,
cheers for that. I must admit I didn't expect those low figures.