Csteele is on the money Yabby, if you'll excuse my pun.

To get back on topic it now appears that the Victoria Police and Robert Doyle are in breach of something called the Victorian Charter of Human Rights. The criteria is quite specific with regard to the grounds of containment. To elaborate , the occupy protesters met none of the criteria required to consider their protest requiring of containment.

Containment and its justification has quite specific guidelines under the charter. May I provide a link from a real newspaper I might add.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/civil-rights-and-crossing-the-line-20111025-1mi0s.html

I think the politics of confrontation has been the method of the conservative side on the Australian political landscape since Howard . We moved away (backward actually ) from consensus politics, consensus industrial relations, consensus refugee and climate policy,
and now (given their first chances to govern at a State level), consensus human rights, including "the Right of Assembly" in Vic and NSW.

Calling the kettle black whilst being the pot, leaves you getting away with having no real policies of your own and still being ahead in the opinion polls. All you have do in opposition is disrupt things and act like a Gov't in exile claiming you'll rescind anything the elected Govt does. All you have to do in Govt is rely on your media pals.

If democracy itself is under threat ?, it is not from the Gov't we have, but from dancing with electing an Abbott led Gov't of confrontation and vested interest. A Gov't prepared to confront progress itself with an inward and anal gazing view of Australia worthy of the stone age. More digging holes and farming sheep, till its all gone and at the end, nothing to show, not even your own publicly owned telecommunications' system.

More infrastructure neglect , more privatisation, more taking from the poor to give to the rich, more mining profits and less revenue, more fossil fuel burning, more cows in national parks, more endangered species of shark culled randomly for populism, more forceful quelling of public dissent, more centralised media power, need I go on.

*Csteele is on the money Yabby, if you'll excuse my pun.*

You are seemingly as badly informed as Csteele, when it comes to
banking, Thinker 2. No surprises there.

It is a pity that you did not tune in to the Senate investigation
into banking, much of it was televised, about a year ago. Those
leftwing senators like Cameron were gonna give it to the greedy
bankers and one by one their CEOs appeared for interrogation.

The result was quite amusing to watch as it unfolded.
Clearly our politicians don't have much of a clue about banking
either. It was only when things were explained to them slowly
and in context, that they finally twigged, as to why things were
as they were, all for good reasons. They kept their tails between
their legs and meekly accepted that they were intellectually
challenged on this one.

Its the wha wha factor of course. People like yourself and Csteele
can freely sling mud, but no understanding is required, just pent
up emotions which you'd like to release. You've read the media
headlines but forgot to understand the devil in the details.

Perhaps it serves a good purpose. Getting things of your chest
has psychological implications, like letting you sleep a bit better.
Its cheaper then paying a shrink.

Dear Belly,

Now you are confusing their deposits with ours. The money you and I loan to the banks via our deposits is on the Bank's balance sheet as a liability not an asset. We sit along side foreign money and the derivative liabilities.

I'm talking about what they stump up to the table.

As to paying “those pesky Australian depositors 6% on their money” you have to be kidding. About 70% of our deposits with any major bank is there for three months or less. Please tell me where you are getting 6% on that kind of short term money? Most of us are instead paying for the privilege.

Csteele, I assume that you were referring to myself and not to
Belly.

Rather then deposits, I assume you actually meant the banks
or their shareholders equity. I think you'll find that runs
at a bit over 8%, but under the new Basel rules its being pushed
to 10%.

The banks average out their funding costs over all sorts of loans,
some local, some overseas. Plenty of people park their money on
fixed deposit, for anything from 3 months to 5 years. Just a couple
of years ago they were offering 8% on 5 year deposits. They would
still be paying that on those deposits. In August I was still signing up for 6 months
at 6%. The banks also have accounts to park your money for the short term,
removable and tranferable as you like. They have been paying 5%
on those.

In fact on many accounts the banks would be losing money. The bloke
who cashes in his dole transfer via the teller each fornight, still
uses their infrastructure and takes up staff time. They do it as
a public service.

there is a link in here
that states what the issue is
the why..we are talking about a right to assemble

sems the 'stock exchange is having a 'teqnical glich'

lol

the virtual economy meltdown?

they only trade in promises for share
not actual shares

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1285/006/Banks_Have_Put_Americans_On_The_Hook_For_Trillions:_Restore_Glass-Steagall.html
http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/a-fractional-reserve-gold-standard-the-next-big-fraud/

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship
with the unfruitful works of darkness,..but rather reprove them.
http://dailybail.com/home/video-fist-fight-in-italian-parliament-as-dysfunctional-gove.html

http://www.truth-out.org/occupy-wall-streets-battle-against-american-style-authoritarianism/1319570241

12/for it is a shame..to even speak of those things..done in secret..

http://theintelhub.com/2011/10/26/feds-order-you-tube-to-remove-video-for-containing-%E2%80%9Cgovernment-criticism%E2%80%9D/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500202_162-20125720/mexican-drug-suspect-u.s-gave-me-immunity/
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=16455
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/ARCHIVE/CRIMES_OF_MENA.html
http://dailybail.com/home/disgraced-hedge-fund-manager-john-paulson-sends-bankster-shi.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM23k_LXWlc&feature=player_embedded
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/10/wall-street-banks-getting-nsa-intel-on-foreign-hackers/1?csp=34news&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomNation-TopStories+%28News+-+Nation+-+Top+Stories%29

13/but all things that are reproved..are made manifest..by the light..
for what ever doth..*manifest..is of the light
http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2011/10/hillary-clinton-knew-of-qaddafi-white.html

ie
only the real economy egsists
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/10/25/billions-lost-in-secret-federal-reserve-funding-of-iraq-war/

http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2011/10/european-debt-crisis-creditors-are.html
http://dailybail.com/home/behind-europes-debt-crisis-lurks-another-giant-bailout-of-wa.html
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/owss-beef-wall-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025?link=mostpopular2

bankers stealing houses
rebuked
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27282
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkUKW8NtJdE

whats the real issue
http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/152811/the_shocking%2C_graphic_data_that_shows_exactly_what_motivates_the_occupy_movement_/
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/slavevtaxpayer.jpg

heck get your own info
http://whatreallyhappened.com/

Police in America moved in to the protesters camps clearing them.
Much as I predicted, my youth saw me in such camps my union days in others.
I will never understand,the stupidity of some who infest those places.
Violence, trashing public property.
I remember the thugs and mugs, in Canberra,taking control of a peaceful protest.
Such do a better job than the police, in killing the demos.
Yes,had those protesters been quite and in a church, they would have still been forced out,some bashed.
Gandhi was very bright, and very right.
Protesters could do worse than follow his rules.
And by dropping the idiotic lists.
Call for one reform at a time.
Stay away from unwindable wars.
Use what you have media/good conduct/ keep roads and such clear.
Do not engage in conflicts with passers by, thats what they want.
Last? with out you change is not going to happen so go for it.