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Wages. Please let me explain myself

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As you know I am opposed to simply increasing wages because times are tough.

Many businesses today are struggling, many are failing, many have sustained huge losses, yet, unions still push for pay rises simply because the cost of living is getting out of hand.

Now there those who always say, what about the CEO,s.

Well, what about the likes of Hugh Jackman, Andrew Bogus, or Harry Kewl.

Nobody makes mention of these people, yet, they are surrounded by support staff being paid pittance,but that's ok because they are stars, not CEO,s.

In fact, these people make an average CEO,s pay look like peanuts.

So that example there shows there is bias from the tall poppy thinking of many here.

Now back to wages.

As I have always maintained, I have no problem with people wanting more to tackle th cost of living, but, it is not the responsibility of business to pay this, it should be governments who carry the burden in tough times. After all, I is the taxes of those doing it tough that the government relies on on a daily basis.

Now, had w not wasted so much money, and nobody can now deny this fact, we would at worst have no debt problem and at best have money in the bank.

Instead, it's all gone and is continuing to go at at rate of $100 M a day,they say.

Something must be done and fast, otherwise ther will be much fewer jobs, as businesses have literally had a gut full.

Don't believe me, just keep pushing and we will see who is right.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 16 October 2011 6:22:50 AM
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rehctub,
I still believe a flat tax would sort out many of those problems. How can we expect equal playing fields when we don't have equal tax ? By all means call me simple but if you do provide an explanation please why a flat tax wouldn't be better.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 16 October 2011 11:22:49 AM
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Something must be done and fast,
rehctub,
I'm afraid there's no quick remedy to make half the population two ounces smarter before the next federal election.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 16 October 2011 2:34:43 PM
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I do not wish to be rude.
I do not dislike you.
Still have that beer if ever.
You mate just do not understand.
Minimum wage rises ARE THE ONLY RISE GIVEN.
That could remotely fill your complaint.
Other rises, come at the end of an EBA or start of a Greenfield's one, brand new.
While you convince your self the sky is falling.
And Labor made it happen.
No crisis in this country is taking place, not even a start.
Yes understand you do not wish to know.
But unemployment fell, Australia is seeing consumers, who over spent, who got into debt.
Frightened by the idias currency on your side of the fence, not spending.
I will not return,threads like this do not want to hear the other sides views.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 16 October 2011 3:44:27 PM
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Belly, always happy to hear your views.

Do you honestly think pay rises should be granted when a company is going backwards?N

Flat Tax
Sorry, but it won't work an this is why.

Someone on $1500 per week, paying say $400 in tax, nets $1100.

Meanwhile, someone on $600 a week, takes home say $520.

Two points.
Firstly, the person on $600 requires every cent of their income Just To Survive.

Meanwhile, the one on $1500 has spare money, or at least should.

So, say we make it a 20% flat tax, that means the one on $600 takes home just $480, $40less, while the on on $1500 takes home $1200, $100 more.

What I think should happen is one shoukd pay tax on their base salary, then their overtime/Bonusses should be tax free.

This would remove penalty rates which hurt business and convert much of the additional income to tax for the government.

This would increase take home pays,which will be spent in most cases an, it will take preasure off struggling businesses.

A financial transaction tax should be the tax on the table.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 16 October 2011 5:23:18 PM
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I say again belly, governments should be supporting people, not businesses that themselves are doing it tough.

You may not believe me, but I can assure you that small business, those who employ staff at least are heading south and fast.

In fCt,my bet is in ten year or so they will be all but a distant memory.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 16 October 2011 5:25:59 PM
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