So belly, are you avoiding this thread, or just the question?

Or, perhaps both.

I will ask again.

Do you honestly think pay rises are warranted if a company is doing it tough?

Of so, what is yourmreasoning behind this approach?

Would love to hear your response here belly, especially being a union official and all.

Someone tell belly that if it wasn't for the filthy rich there, there would be far fewer jobs and far less tax revenue.

He doesn't like talking to me.

If we had to pay a hundred Dollars a week less tax many of us could afford to spend more thus provide more jobs. It's the insane Tax system which stops this Nation in her tracks again & again. We simply have to pay too much. Pay for too many permits & licenses. For what I ask ? Not so much to make the rich richer but to keep the many useless bureaucrats from becoming useful.

If it wasn't for the workers there would be no filthy rich.

It is about a fair wages and distribution rehctub and ensuring that labour is valued as much as other types of property.

One thing is for certain you will continue to ignore the fact that the greater the gap between the rich and poor the less democracy you get for your buck.

Pelican, I don't ignore that at all, in fact, I am fully aware that the gap is increasing, but, also the work ethics are changing.

Those who either have low skills, or, choose to work in low skilled areas, think that they should be able to work as few hours as possible, yet, still have all the goodies that those working 60 to 80 hours a week have. Won't happen, can't happen and that's all ther is to it.

And just remember, we are all presented with an equal opportunity to fail, it's just that some of us choose not to be one of the don't haves, mainly due to lots of blood sweat, tears and risk. Ther is nothing stopping anyone, apart from themselves.

Boy, watch th tall poppies come back at that one!