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Occupy Wall Street - which way forward?

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Belly,

You are scared at my comment on the ineffectual nature of the protest?

A couple of disheveled youths with cardboard signs is hardly going to strike fear into bankers.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 17 October 2011 1:55:45 PM
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*but many people from the Right and Left are no longer accepting the lack of ethics so dominating business.*

Gawd Pelican, what amazes me is the naivety of so many people, about
business. If you are concerned about ethics, go and trade with
the Chinese. Just remember to count your fingers after shaking
hands. Business is a jungle and its been that way for as long
as I can remember. All business, there are greedy people right
through the community. This notion that corporations are evil
and small business and workers are not, is frankly bollocks. Some
of the most dishonest people whom I have met have been workers and
small business people. I've also met incredibly generous and honest
corporate leaders.

Why do you you think I moved to the country, where a handshake is
still taken seriously and your word is your bond. That is extremely
rare in this world, the ratrace is full of rats. I was aware of
that in my late teens, after seeing how business operates in Europe.

So frankly, chanting about corporate greed is a heap of tosh and
quite simplistic.

Do you think that there is no greed within the Canberra public
service, as they feather their cushy nests?
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 17 October 2011 1:57:15 PM
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there is no need for greed nor fear
there is plenty for all

all we need is a true sepperatrion of powers
and nominate which power we give our due to

the capitalista can run their capitalists
sepperate from govt[and the church]..they only make laws/rules
for the good of the trust[the people]..not break them

so sepperate money creation
from money banking...from money speculating
never the twain shall meet..no govt to capitalists

only a fair share due to all its people
to those who have skill or credit or asset
more4 shall be given..to those whith debt..it will be repaid in full
but no ursury]..govt pays out your debt...assumes trust over the assets..TILL YOU PAY OFF /back..EVERY cent[plus small handeling cost]

win
win

we either all win
or we all loose

werre all in this together
we sink or swim together
Posted by one under god, Monday, 17 October 2011 2:17:10 PM
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Belly you write

',Sorry, no point in avoiding it, the comments of Shadow minister and runner frighten me.
They actually seem to believe the weird ideas they post!'

That is exactly what is wrong with your mob. You only believe what you think might get you elected or what might get you to cling to power. You might disagree with our beliefs but at least we are true to our convicitons exposing the hypocrisy of the Labour/Green Government.
Posted by runner, Monday, 17 October 2011 2:22:34 PM
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Hee, Hee!, runner!

Are you inferring that the Conservative side of politics is beyond being driven by "what they think might get [them] elected and what might get [them] to cling to power"?

"Convictions" and "hypocrisy" are universal, not only in politics, but in human morality in general.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 17 October 2011 2:46:58 PM
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Yabby
Yes of course there is greed in all organisations including the public service. We have discussed public service deficiencies often on this forum. You will get no argument from me there. That is exactly my point - not enough relevant checks and balances.

The trouble is you and others are too busy dishing out on the non-existent (and hardly influential) Loony Left that you completely ignore the activities of the Loony Right and what has led to these riots.

Instilling fear about the Left may work as a strategy for a while particularly in countries like the US where even universal health care is deemed 'Communist' however you can only fool people some of the time, people are beginning to see through the spin, hence the protests.

It is about time.
Posted by pelican, Monday, 17 October 2011 4:02:45 PM
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