Lexi,

It is impossible in the real world to achieve equity for all. If you manage to get the majority in the basket you are doing rather well.

A same sex couple in Somalia would be happy to have an evening meal between them and see the dawn of the next day.

The rights you speak of are for the more affluent , they are definitely not universal.

As I say who marries whom is of no issue as far as I am concerned. I just do not see it as a human rights issue. There are far more issues of greater import that fall in that category.

Great talking to you Lexi.

Take it easy.

SD

daer andrea's..you must know we have had many discussions
on the topic of gay marriage..[you might not know that we nearly lost this forum because of the same issue]

i think this link explains that near miss
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11583&page=0

if its the right article..from it you will learn
that there are those in your camp..who will do anything to silence opinion of 'others'

its these type that need full
and lawfull CONTROL over...'a wife'
[in its fully bound conditioning]

as you can see by the other replies
WERE ALL FINE WITH YOU GUYS MARRIAGING..each other as much as you wish

but respect those..formerly bound before god
in and out of the mirage of 'marriage'..
thewy have a right to their opinions too

there is no doudt..that many of your fellow humans have rights
indeed even a right to be called a wife or a husband
[if thats what you want]

but respect that a husband and a husband
or a wife and a wife...

is simply going that step too far for many
[who really feel a marriage formalises that title...clearly and fully]
cause thats what they wanted

if your not wanting to a real 'marriage'..
your wanting to make some point..[and so is your right]

but respect that husbands and wives...
[and their kids]..need that respect too

one MUST be the father
one must be the mother

anymore than that will only confuse an issue
many dont fully grasp fully..the concept of..[bless their ignorant hearts]

anyhow its fine if your not ready to state fully on the forum
if you be wanting to be the husband or the wiife

so think how you going to explain it
to the kids [fatherd/motherd..by one of the mirage partners]
because both cant be father/mother..[in its legal sense]
or even harder how will they explain it to their friends

one can only have one mother
and one sperm donating father

though both 'partners may be teqnicly capable
of bearing or fathering a child..only one of reality can be]

so think of the other questions
mummy[wife]...who is my dad
because your husband looks just like you
my friends say your both the same sex..did you have sex with daddy?

why didnt you marry my father?
who is my real daddy?

why do they call me names?
what does bar steward mean mummy?

its hard enough raising kids
without confusing them further

so at what age do you tell them we arnt hushband and wife
you got two daddies...and we paid mum to have you

were 'gay'..
because we love mummies
we..just wouldnt marry one..for your peace of mind

Diver Dan while we you and I live on different sides of the fence it is important to understand.
80% of us, forget the skewed polling,think a like.
And we that number are victims, of PC,
It heaves its bulk in to our lives sitting there on our table, demanding to be seen and heard.
But demanding too, we somethings we want,not be heard even spoken.
Just 50 years ago this subject would not see the light of day.
I except we have changed, but not to the extent this is other than a personal rights issue.
HUMAN RIGHTS~! well put, in a world that sees the very term stolen miss used, that sees some blindly looking to the very out of touch greens, a minor minority, to take that 80% and shake it in to agreeing with?
I do not oppose a legal ceremony for these folk, I do oppose the increasing if you are not for us you are the enemy self centeredness they impose on us.
A silence on some aspects is imposed because of fears we, like that Victorian, may be beaten to a verbal pulp, for just saying what he thought, a very inoffensive statement.
Our rights to speak are not free.
Yet most agree let them have what they want but why not as most of us a simple ceremony out side a church.

If homosexual people want to play house then good luck to them.

Why is this even an issue? After all, heterosexual marriage as a majority institution is basically finished. If heteros have abandoned the institution, why are they protesting about gays picking it up?

I think the solution would be to allow these same sex partners to become legally together but, come up with another word for thie unity, not marriage, as that should be reserved for a man and a woman, as it has since the beginning of time.

Sorry to offend, but the married word is taken.