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Abbott, wedded to outdated values?
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Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 October 2011 11:16:49 AM
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Dear Suze,
People can say what they want about Mr Abbott - or any other politician for that matter. Differences of opinion are inevitable due to people's political inclinations. I judge the man by what he has to offer and what comes out of his own mouth. And for that only he's responsible. As long as he continues with what he's been doing to date, my opinion of him will remain the same. Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 2 October 2011 11:27:17 AM
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Speaking of Goebbels:
Love him or loathe him Goebbels has the populist prudes, coat tail riders and "mental midgets" down to a tee in this article. More morality, less Moralism! (27 January 1934) http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb60.htm Maybe Abbott's opponents could adopt the slogan "No squares allowed!" Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 2 October 2011 11:51:04 AM
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Dear Jay,
Why not use one of Mr Abbott's best lines?: ""HAHAHA! Sh**t happens!" Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:34:26 PM
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I have said how this author, and many women I have spoken to, feel about Abbott.
Abbott is pro-life, opposes embryonic stem cell research and opposes euthanasia. Those views, in themselves, are enough to turn me off him. When Abbott has opened his own mouth and said the following quotes, I don't blame women for feeling the way they do: “The problem with the Australian practice of abortion is that an objectively grave matter has been reduced to a question of the mother’s convenience.” “I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons” "...a bizarre double standard in this country where some-one who kills a pregnant woman’s baby is guilty of murder, but a woman who aborts an unborn baby is simply exercising choice." "Abortion is the easy way out. It's hardly surprising that people should choose the most convenient exit from awkward situations." ” I think there does need to be give and take on both sides, and this idea that sex is kind of a woman’s right to absolutely withhold, just as the idea that sex is a man’s right to demand I think they are both they both need to be moderated, so to speak” Abbott introduced a pregnancy support hotline that refused to give out full and truthful information on women's options. He tried, but failed, to block the introduction of the abortion pill RU-486, but promised not to change the abortion laws if elected (really?). He proposed a return to an optional at-fault divorce agreement between couples who would like it, similar to the Matrimonial Causes Act, which would require couples to prove offences like cruelty, desertion, adultery, habitual drunkenness, or a five-year separation before a divorce would be granted. His bumbling comments about women and ironing, and about his own daughters virginity just made me cringe! Oh yes indeed, a bloke like this is bound to upset a few women... Posted by suzeonline, Sunday, 2 October 2011 2:34:56 PM
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suzie writes
';He proposed a return to an optional at-fault divorce agreement between couples who would like it, similar to the Matrimonial Causes Act, which would require couples to prove offences like cruelty, desertion, adultery, habitual drunkenness, or a five-year separation before a divorce would be granted. His bumbling comments about women and ironing, and about his own daughters virginity just made me cringe!' a huge number of men and women who have been screwed over by the courts would cheer these comments. I would rather him bumbling about his daughters virginity than being proud of lining their daughter at the altar after a dozen partners. Funny enough I think Mr Rudd would share very similar views on these topics to Abbott although he obviously couldnot or would not admit to them openly. Posted by runner, Sunday, 2 October 2011 2:52:07 PM
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I am sure and certain how ever we, me you, Lexi, can make no ground with just a few.
Now retaliation is not the answer.
I went that way, it is my nature, and it was wrong.
You find your self here in debate with a post on the road side.
Its task is to stay in one place, not moving or thinking, it does the job set out for it, well.
I regard the insults of some as the highest praise!
Abbott remember, once so badly thought of, is unchanged.
In time, you will be shown, I have been, it is what those who think only rarely that matter.
And too, that perfection in politics never existed never will.
At best, and only that, we can get some of our wishes .
You, I, and Lexi, the giant intellect pelican, can not turn water in to wine.
But we can with effort see past the mud.