Bazz 7100 2 meter band positive off set any day 4.30.
Because humanity is much as my last post said in every matter.
Because maybe we drift away from most religions, our once barrier to poor behavior we drift without anchors.
And in time that will put us all on the rocks.
Forget my trade union/Labor back ground.
If I was a lifelong Liberal, my roots would be in Sir Robert Menzies mold.
A man who lead at a time the West Minister system meant some thing, who would today return to his grave rather than sit with those who high jacked his invention/party.
What future for any of us if truth and honesty no longer matters.

Belly,
Menzies supporter or not I think we can both see how badly we have been served by all politicians of all persuasions over the last decade or so.

Gone are the days when a train driver or shopkeeper can rise through the ranks. All we have now is a series of ex-shop stewards, second-rate suburban accountants and ambulance chasers all out for building a career on the back of the public interest. Get elected for a couple of terms and you're set for life super-wise.

Most of today's bunch are actually ex-staffers or Party apparatchiks who inherit seats from their ex-bosses when they retire.
Even those who are serious soon become chewed up by the Party Machines or are weeded out in favour of those who are prepared to toe the Party line.

The standard of debate? Well there isn't any. No more Fred Daleys or even Jim Killens anymore. Not even close. They all behave like insurance or used car salesmen eager to make a sale.

The PM's job is now like something out of Australian Idol or the X-Factor where charisma has replaced competence.

Maybe it would be easier if the PM's job is given to the previous year's Gold Logie winner.

Personally I couldn't care less how well they "perform" - as long as they were competent and did the job with sincerity and integrity.

Maybe things need to get a bit worse before they start to get better.

I hope we both get to see that change during your next 66 years.

Cheers.

wobbles "The PM's job is now like something out of Australian Idol or the X-Factor where charisma has replaced competence."

Overall I agree with your post but it's been a while since we had a PM with any charisma, Hawke maybe.

R0bert

Wobbles you will remember we called the bloke Ming, and before that Pig Iron Bob.
In my youth I would have choked on words of praise for him.
He however was a statesman,and compared to todays LABOR party a lefty.
He believed in a workers right to be represented by a union to have a fair wage and so much fewer believe in now.
The father of a man I truly despise Frank, father of Simon Crean can be added to your list.
I fear the evidence, in plain sight,our politics is getting worse not better.
Wobbles I will sound like a conspiracy nut but I see us failing, the human race,to deal with most issues.
Just maybe in those 66 years the UN may get to be our only government.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/brother-unions-must-end-their-silence-on-excess-of-others-20110921-1kl4f.html
This link is about the very heart of my reason for posting this thread.
It is critical of the public silence of other unions in the HSU scandal.
For much the same reasons I am.
That sullied and dirty word , once so sacred to unions solidarity is a lie.
From once inside the union movement, not now,nothing is so ex as an ex, the movement dumps its past quickly.
Truth is left and right unions, even attempts to unite them in self interest help most their brother unions.
Afraid of inventing new roads new reality's new ways, the movement clings to terms like Comrade and brother, but its members in only the smallest numbers do not regard that as childlike.
Some warned me, if that bloke calls us comrades once more we leave.
I HIGHLIGHT this those women/men I still think of as Friends see the HSU as enemy,they connect all unions to this sinking ship.
Hate me if they must, on the next time these union heads it together think as you pull those chairs out.
You sit in those chairs to serve the membership and the union.
To serve those who sat there before you and after you.
A poor union out come should be squashed solidarity is to betray your reason for existing.
Foot soldiers, officials who will never rise to your hight but ARE the union ,suffer every day at the hands of slugs, who are unfit to be unionists.

your up early today again my brother
yep me too...[im not sure if its a blessing or a curse]

i just replied..to sephens topic
[see last link]

thats the only reason im up

but now its back to my dreams
as i tried to explain at the last post here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11008&page=0

that got me banned last time..lol

as for what stopped me
from sleeping
has been said...here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4715&page=0

this has put my mind at rest
and now i can return..to my only true joy

sleep

love ya bro
i hope you can take naps
or talk of what is desturbing your rest

please look after yourself mate
you fought hard for the 8 hours
during which we sleep

insist you get 8 hours
[i think sleeping..is the only thing keeping me going]
without my ten hours per day..i rekon i would pass over

i should write an ode to sleep
but in truth its an ode to dreams

[its not the sleep so much as the dreaming
thats important...just to get away from the dreadfull everyday reality...sleep is my 'safe place']

but we are all different
love you my brother

good night
or perhaps good moring

see ya after 9*
12 to 9 is me time