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You Saw us tell Julia,

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Last night 13/9/11 some of you would have seen on the news our protest at Parliament House.51 of us left Sydney on a bus bound for Canberra.Most of the people were self funded retirees with the exception of few like myself who sacrificed a days work to make a point.

I was really impressed with these great Australians who had worked hard all their lives,never complained and nearly all had never been politically active until now.

Julia Gillard had obiviously lied to us all saying,"There will be no carbon tax under a Govt I lead." However there is a lot more to the slowest suicide quest for Labor that Tony Abbott alluded to just today.

Why has Labor now become so intent on their own self destruction? What has divorced them from the political reality that gives them sustaince?
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:25:58 PM
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""Why has Labor now become so intent on their own self destruction?""

because its only a front
for the public service..that runs the two party scam
advising both sides

""What has divorced them from the political reality
that gives them sustaince""

the public service tellls them..what is the party line
then gives thenm spin/lies...like the smoking statistics
again created and presented by the public servants

just like the social costs...31 billion[social cost's are every ATTRIBUTABLE..smoking expenditure..including deemed loss for a day off
or the presumed cost..if every butt was collected..and killed a fish]

its all leveraged spin..designed to make
the 2 party patsies..do as they are told
regardless of which party they claim to represent

its too clever
i spent 10 years fighting it
and it only made 'no difference'

wiorse are these enquiries
that NEVER see the light of day

an inquiry is a thing you do
to make the current destraction go away
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 15 September 2011 8:23:10 AM
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Arjay, thanks for representing our views in Canberra. Can I answer this question: "What has divorced them from the political reality that gives them sustaince?"

You know what has driven them, the United Nations and the Fabian wealth distribution program. We will be shipping tax payer funds to U.N. Fabian bureaucrats so they can model the world in their image. We know that the current Labor leadership team consists of Fabian ideologues and they are sending OUR money to strangers to secure THEIR future with the U.N. gravy train.

Rudd is an example of the mindset of these Fabian demigods, ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN TRAVELL EXPENSES and nothing to show for it, NOTHING.
Posted by sonofgloin, Thursday, 15 September 2011 8:26:56 AM
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We all have to the rage to coin a Whitlam expression.I see now attacks on Abbott because many in the finance and banking want this tax and the associated ETS implemented.

We need to identify exactly who these groups are and reveal their motivations for wanting the tax.Who benefits?
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 15 September 2011 8:57:50 AM
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The Politicians and Journalists seem to have the same problem with conjoining their remarks with the history of events. For instance:-
Greece has a very poor economy at the moment. It has corporate tax of 22/25%, Personal tax 0-40% with 19% VAT.
USA is in financial trouble, Corporate tax of 15-35%, Personal tax 10-35%.
UK is not too bright, Corporate tax 30%, Personal tax 0-40%, VAT 17.5%
Australia workers suffering, Corporate tax 30%, Personal tax 17%-45% GST 10%.
When you consider that USA had a top personal tax of 94% in the 1950ís with a good economy and remained with a good economy until the personal tax was reduced. It is unbelievable that people with intelligence do not see the problem.
The UK had a top personal tax of 80% in 1946, with a penalty of 146% if the income was over 8,000 pounds.
Greece has been in serious financial trouble and has called on other countries for help, if a higher top tax was implemented, it would be able to finance its own way and give its own workers the benefit of a better employment and economy. The same can be said about every country in the world, and they cannot contend that it is not of the making of their own members of their parliament.
The motto that could be and should be seen from this is that as the top tax comes down, the uncontrolled incomes go up and so does the cost of goods and services, and the economy goes down.
It seems that the top personal tax should be 65-70% with zero tax on approximate $30,000, Corporate tax should be about 55-60% as in the 1960ís, and the GST should be wiped out to give an impetus to wage earners in our Country.
Mervyn Jacobi
13 Marlborough St.
Sherwood. 4075.
Posted by merv09, Thursday, 15 September 2011 10:50:10 AM
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Just a wild-ass guess, merv09.

>>Corporate tax should be about 55-60%<<

You've never run a business, right?
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 15 September 2011 11:48:56 AM
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