If you had to make the spit level discussion.......what would it consist of?

Your first point of order...

Your second point of order and so on....

Now As leader......the rules are, your adviser can only tell you what to say to a POINT, but you can only make a ruling BY the rulings of the law. (and anyone can piggy back your friends, for their own political greed.

This is a nobility test...plus and not real:)......just give a.....what if:)

Cactus

cack/quote..""If you had to make the spit level discussion
.......what would it consist of?""

two people..[or more]
talking past each other

each chosing to remain ignorant
by talking..when they should be..hearing each other

""just give a.....what if:)""

just did
cant you listen?

there is no what if..
if..the mind is numb

OUG...The fun and real life it seems, that our Government leaders cant simply run a country for the life of them and I just thought the members here on OLO seems to more understanding than the one,s we trust.

But what is that word TRUST? To me, the gov just seem to buttering their own bread, and living the FUN life at our exspence.

In REAL LIFE, more and more people out-side our Government.....are the only one,s that's having a serious go at putting AUST in the black.

Iam telling you, Iam starting to loose faith in democracy.

What seems to be intelligents.....is nothing more than a bunch of jokers getting fat, while the rest of us here, can come up with better answers to the BIGGER questions.

China must be laughing their heads off, while they stock-pile all they can get their hands on. I think we better start learning the language.

I would like to see some heat put on them, before its too late.

cactus

as you ask a serious question
i will try to apply a serious reply

government trust
is the very basis of the right to rule
all govt is by its form..a corrperation..of which the people collect the dividend...[to wit..personal safety peace and govt protections]..

govt has betrayed their sacred trust
by virtue of it serving more..the corperations
that it has given legal identity to...[a corperation is essentially NOT living..not flesh and blood..it CANT talk..and BY law,..cant be hurt;killed..like we living/flesh/blood can be hurt and die

mainly because a corperation
of truth has never been born

its certificate of foundation..does not entitle 'it'
to a share of govt safety/peace..protection as such

but by cleverly...subverting the purpose and reason..of the forming of the state..[trust][to wit the corperate trust]..we call austrlia
they have not only betrayed the lettter of the legal law
but the highest moral laws as well.

know that we as benifitiaries of the trust
vote.to elect the trustees that run the common wealth[trust]
on behalf of the trustees[us]..we are the flesh blood and spirit
that gives the state its 'life'

but im getting carried away
i have tried to explain it to often
most recently here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12516&page=0

but clearly..that im trying to say
dosnt get through to the very people[the very trust]..that has been grossly and treasonously betrayed..

but thank god..the high court
knows..what i was trying to say
and its more to them..to whom i spoke

people dont need to know..how govt gets to lord it over them
[by us [collectivly]..being legal imbisiles]
[that's a proper legal term]

anyhow good luck
with your discussion

Yes OUG, and the mindless masses, and I know just what your referring to. A famous visionary in the seventies arena once said " if you cant baffle them with brilliance", and the rest is self explainable.

Oh well, maybe a life on unemployment benefits wont be that bad:) The new Australian,s are the unfortunate ones, and just maybe, the next gen 20 years from now, they just might forgive us.

Thanks.

Cactus.

dont let it get you down bro
i found great consolation in seeing life as a game

have fun with it
we are spirits allowed to have a life experience
its not a life sentance[unless you take the game seriously]

we all die in the end mate
so why try to be the first or last
just enjoy that you know..some truths
and be gratefull your not asked to assume more responsability

those poor sukkers are risking their very souls
they in their ignorances dont know how much they stand to loose

but think mate
you cant take your riches or your debts with you

all that counts is what you chose to do to make things better
[or worse]..then in the next life...big karmic comeback]

and there is a next life
[energy cant be created nor destroyed
that life energy you emit..or attract..follows you
[haunts you or lifts you up for eternity]

thats why its easier to have trust
why loving god is as easy as loving neighbour

that we do to the least
we unkowingly do to the one..sustaining us all..our very life

life mate ..just live it in love
every little bit of hate hurts

toss away fear/hope
know we are dreaming
so learn about vivid dreaming

dont chose
to live the nightmare..of guilt blame shame

people love to be..with happy people..
that is a rule in this realm
and the next

cheers mate