I have great difficulty in establishing what believers actually believe. By this I don’t mean just the Judeo-Christian bible and sundry text such as the Nicene Creed. Throughout the world there is a multitude of beliefs from the mainstream to the truly bizarre and wacky. We haven’t even touched on those who have a belief in the anti-god(s) loosely referred to as the devil(s) or those that practice witchcraft and black magic. Where do they all fit in?

ammonium nitrate quote..""I repeat atheism
is just a non belief in a deity.""

never the less
a non belief is yet a belief

a non thiest
is yet a/thiest

no belief needs no proof
just as any belief needs present no proof

yet you present your proof
so lets egsamine it

you wrote[presumably as your evidential proof]

""George Lakoff writes:

"It was conservative laissez-faire free market ideology""

with which i fully agree
i religeous like zeal..in thier own omnipotance
in their own infaliobility...[certainly 'a belief]
but definitivly not a religeon]

not by any stretch of imagination a religeon..
in its traditional meaning..[excepting
the zealoutry like..omnipotants..approaching
yet not being strictly..'a religeon' proper]

take their quoted greed creed
""--that maximizing profit comes first""

wheras proper religeon recognises charity
these faux zealots acts were far from love thy neighbour
and doing good unto other[proper religious creed

we got..maximising proffits..""-- that led to:""

well who cares what it led too
the money changers are an athima...totally oppisite to what jesus most clearly revealed..by his act of upsetting 'the money changers tables'

in short
one could say...your condemming the wrong dog
[even if the other dog has it wrong
this deed..these deleted acts..
wernt done by the dog whos bone your poisening

yet regardless if it were
of the same creed...breed
it holds no evidence for or against
the truth and reality of god..the one true
living loving good...of grace mercy..and life

Paul1405,

They fit into the 34,000 religions and three thousand or so gods humans have invented. To an atheist this is a very strong indication that there is something in human nature causing such behaviour. If it is a god, then it has many facets which contradict each other creating a situation where it is impossible to ascertain if one, some or all are ‘real’ or more likely just a manifestation of human susceptibility to believe the god of their geographical location is the right one. This very fact was the initiating factor that led me to atheism. I have never, ever, been sorry about that.

David

Clearly, Poirot, the atheists here--like Ditchkins--prefer to frolic in the shallows and play with shiny things, and resent being led offshore, to sink and flounder among the true depths and tides of this fraught human condition.
"LET us go then, you and I,
When the evening is spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherized upon a table;
Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets,
The muttering retreats
Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels
And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells:
Streets that follow like a tedious argument
Of insidious intent".

Paul and David both religious names, it is a pity they do not reflect the calibre of such devoted ancient theists. King David said "The fool has said in his heart there is no God' and declared it was God who guided his fruitful life; Paul said "For since the beginning the invisible qualities, and eternal power, and divine nature are clearly seen being understood from the things that are made, so they are without excuse."

Atheism is not a 21st century development it has always been present in society but it has shown that if its primary view of life is "anti-god", it has led to folly and self serving morality and an attempt ultimately at enforced social control of others against their will and common good. Similar to any single ideology of State.