The cover up continues. It’s only 14 years (due 1997) late but that religious organization headed by Mr Ratzinger in Rome, the Catholic Church claims it will release its report into the Vatican’s role in covering up child and other abuse cases committed by Catholic clergy. The Vaticans Archbishop Silvano Tomasi has now promised to release the report in September or October 2011, but it is unclear if this report will explain the Vatican’s role in the cover-up. In its 2011annual report Amnesty International criticized the Holy See for “not sufficiently complying with its international obligations relating to the protection of children.”
Knowing what we know about this church and widespread evidence of child sexual abuse by its clergy. Including its failures to remove perpetrators from posts pending investigations, its failure to co-operate with authorities in bring criminals to justice and its failure to ensure proper reparations to victims. How could any right thinking parent place their child in the hands of these ‘people’, yet million still are still trusting these ‘people’

Paul1405

>> Knowing what we know about this church and widespread evidence of child sexual abuse by its clergy. Including its failures to remove perpetrators from posts pending investigations, its failure to co-operate with authorities in bring criminals to justice and its failure to ensure proper reparations to victims. How could any right thinking parent place their child in the hands of these ‘people’, yet million still are still trusting these ‘people’ <<

Squeers would disagree with you, a self-proclaimed atheist who believes there is worse than parents trusting the care of their children to celibate priests.

He wants us to guess what it is. Maybe it is our current duopoly of a political system. That's really, really bad ATM. But even with children overboard, the mistreatment of refugees, our government has not been ordering how people should live for over 2000 years. Nor does it force Labor or Liberal Instruction in public schools. Well, not yet.

Paul1405,
If the theory af atheism is merely a Crusade against the hypocrisy of the church then it has failed as it cannot have self identity. It is based in a social negativity and not in a whole of life concept.

The teachings of Christ stand pure above the behaviour of people living without conscience and conviction. Such behaviour is not of Christ and to imagine that the Church is typified by such is mistaken. It is not unusual for the whole of society to have such behaviours. However the Catholic Church needs to endorce marriage of priests.

Ammonite,
I'm too busy to respond to some of the peurile nonsense on this thread, and especially yours and Atheist what's his name's admonishments.
I've already made my position clear above and it hasn't been understood or responded to by either of you.
Of course you're not interested in criticism any more than religious institutions are.
You've got your gurus and you just want adoring fans.
Well sorry, can't oblige.

Ammonite, Atheism is not just a crusade (like your choice of word) against the hypocrisy of religions, although that is important. Atheism is the application of science and reason as opposed to the application of superstition and fear. Nothing is all bad, not even religion, the basics of most main stream religions are good, love thy neighbor etc, who can argue against that. Unfortunate some where it all went wrong and what we now have from many within religions is hate thy neighbor etc that I can argue against. If religion was nothing more that basically good people going out and praying to their god of the magic bean, I would say poor misguided ‘souls’ but I can live with you, that would be that. I have a problem when they want to impose their beliefs onto me and tell me how I’m going to live my life.
Philo. “However the Catholic Church needs to endorce marriage of priests.” Can’t agree that the problem of pedophile priests would be fixed with the pleasures of a good woman, no more than a homosexual man would be turned into a heterosexual man by the same woman. It is interesting to know why Catholic Priests are made to be celibate; it was not always the case. About 1000 years ago priest had wives, but some pope found a problem, priests were dying and leaving property to widows, can’t have that so he brought in celibacy, no more church property going to widows.

Squeers

I don't have 'gurus' - earlier on this thread I stated quite unequivocally that I do not agree with ALL the Dawkins et al have to say. Guess you missed that.

Now, I am prepared to admit I how utterly ignorant and gauche I am - so quid pro quo. What is worse than any of the world religions?

Communism? Nasty but doesn't have the history, nor the universal influence.

Capitalism? Ditto with the history but even influences the behaviour of the Chinese (not that they'd admit it), but capitalism American style is hand in hand with religion - useful tool for control that it is.

OK, I have taken your insults on the chin, admitted that I am ignorant of poetry (except for Haiku), why can't you be as honest as I have been and explain.

Pretend I am a little child seeking understanding. Would you treat your children as you have treated myself and Atheist (why not woot, Paul1405? - they're not buying your "worse ideology than religion" either).

And don't claim you don't have time - if you were serious about this you would find the time.

Or leave a link.

There I have made every overture to you. I am completely open to your scorn.

Ball is in your court.