in part was what i expected to write about today

no doudt many of you were simularilly affected
by watching EITHER abc at 8.30..[ie the hicks experience]
or the sbs 8.30..top secret america..showing the how why of the other stuff

i thought we would be discussing one or the other
but heck...that was dumb...most of ya possably watched
the top gear for the laugh and adrenolin fantasy..or packed off the raters..or ncis

to get your fix of alternate reality
but whatever it was..it was what fix you needed
just as spirits..unseen..feed off your emotions

totally unseen
[except when they drain you dry]

and you feel too tired to care..anymore or ever again

hopeless hopeless

its not what we write
that can change things
because we forget what normal is..

*is not what tv told you
or what we think of..that what..others say
or didnt say

but heck why bother

bah

im learning avoidance
by experience of it in real time

OUG, I can't imagine why anyone, other than a true US hater, would have watched either of those programs.

Anyone with even half a brain would understand by where they were being shown that there would be more truth on Top Gear, than both those programs combined. Stuff all comes to mind.

Although probably excellent for those who want to feed their hate, I would much rather have had a laugh.

Unfortunately only some can be both stupid & funny simultaneously, & the people in the Oz version of Top Gear are not among them. I therefor watched the first half hour of "As Time Goes Buy", & having then had enough of even very clever syrup, did some work, before the real thing.

Even then, much as I love old Jags & steam trains, could not really get into that episode. I wonder if it was me, or them, who were not at our best.

Back on topic, rehctub, I'll see your 26 years, & raise you 9.

No I don't think it's normal, but it must be nice, provided she feels the same way.

These days I sometime wonder if I could someday walk past my lady in the street, without recognising her, I see so little of her.

Since the grand kids arrived, she has gone all clucky, much more than with her own kids, that is about all she thinks of. I wonder if my daughter has slipped her something like "love potent # 9", to benefit from the free baby sitting.

Seriously mate, I think you are a little lucky, although I realise you mostly make your own luck. My car club have a Sunday drive a couple of times each month, & I have attended a couple. The first was to one of our recently filled dams, for a picnic/bar-b-que lunch, & the other to a country restaurant for lunch.

We did the same thing back in my courting days, & the girls loved them. The only lady on either of these was my youngest daughter, who wanted to take me for a drive in my sports car. A beautiful blond, with her hair streaming out from under her headscarf, driving a sports car 12 years older than her, is a real picture. I reckon all the others were jealous.

Dear rehctub,

Congratulations! And Bless You Both!
I guess these days it is a milestone to have been happily
married for so long. Many of our friends are on their
second and third marriages. My husband and I married
fairly young - and we're still together. We've had our
ups and downs (who hasn't?), but I wouldn't trade him
for any one else. Happiness in marriage is not something
that just happens. A good marriage must be created. It's the
little things that are the big ones. Like never going to
sleep angry. It's having a mutual sense of values and
common objectives. It's forming a circle of love that gathers
in the whole family. It's doing things for each other,
not in the atittude of duty or sacrifice, but in the spirit of
joy. It's cultivating flexibility, patience, understanding,
and a sense of humour. It's hav ing the capacity to forgive
and forget. And finally it's not only marrying the right
partner, it's being the right partner.

And I've been very, very lucky in that - but I've worked at it!

Well despite the gloom most young people seem to want to pair off as much as us old ducks. Pairing off seems to be a 'natural' drive even if the pairing is for a short duration.

I am almost 26 years too rehctub with two grown (well one almost grown) children.

All relationships take a bit of work and there are sacrifices as well as gains. People do change and given we live a lot longer perhaps some relationships won't last. Sometimes people agree mutually to break up even if it will be emotionally and pragmatically difficult for the short term. How many people just stayed married because it was the done thing.

The marriage failure rate (is it 50-60%?) could be due to a combination of a bit more honesty and a bit less an inclination to work at it.

Pelican re the divorce rate now as against stats of the last 50 years. The difference is the advent of modern women’s rites fostered in by the hippy generation. The mothers of these hippy gen teens quite possibly did not have title to the house, access to the primary assets, did not have an income, limited vocation choices, ran the budget from a stipend handed out by the husband, and finally but most pertinent, was viewed by the judiciary as not having contributed to the household as the wage earning husband did.

Those wives and mothers in the vast majority of cases had nowhere to go and no means to get there. They were stuck like a bee in amber. Women god blessem now have what men always had, choices and a solicitor.